If someone is in the middle of an orthodox conversion do they HAVE to break shabbat?

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    What do you "middle of an Orthodox conversion"? Like after circumcision but before dipping in the Mikvah?
    – Double AA
    Commented Jan 30, 2017 at 19:39
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    If you are still studying for conversion, but have not yet gone through the full process, then you are not Jewish and are required to perform at least one melacha on shabbat. The rabbi that you are studying with will explain this to you. There are some who say that only Jews have the day sunset to sunrise and nonJews can consider the day midnight to midnight (or possibly sunrise to sunrise). In that case, they can perform an action Friday during the day and Saturday night after the time for havdallah. Other people will keep something like a pen in an inner pocket of their jacket. CYLOR Commented Jan 30, 2017 at 21:42
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    Basically as Sabahillel says, But make sure to clear with your Rabbi exactly which Melachos count! For example, a pen on you will only be effective if you are in an area with no Eruv. Or, as a different example, lighting a match for no purpose other than to "break" Shabbos would not actually accomplish anything! Commented Jan 30, 2017 at 22:44
  • possible duplicate of ... judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/13447/…
    – Dude
    Commented Mar 2, 2017 at 22:19


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