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Are there any other Chasidic sects besides Chabad that daven Nusach al-pi Arizal (Siddur Tehillas Hashem or Torah Ohr)?

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    Note many Siddurim have claimed to be "the nusach of the Arizal". Chabad's is but one of them. So other groups can pray with such a nusach, but not have it be that of Chabad's. (related judaism.stackexchange.com/q/70798/759 ) – Double AA Jan 23 '17 at 17:21
  • I've known several non-Chabad people who use Tehillat Hashem… but you ask about sects. – msh210 Jan 23 '17 at 17:41
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    Nobody davens nusach Ari. Shaar Hakavanos brings down that Arizal did not want anyone to change from nusach ashkenaz to nusach sfard (like he prayed) so that they shouldn't lose out on their particular pathway of prayer. Apparently people thought the better idea would then be to make up a new nusach, nusach sfard to incorporate what they thought was the best of both nuschaos. So in reality all nusach sfard are an attempt at nusach ari, to some degree or another. All perhaps ignoring his imploring them to keep to nusach ashkenaz. – user6591 Jan 23 '17 at 18:40
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    @user6591, R' Yitzchak Luria Ashkenazi was Sephardi? He followed Sephardi minhagim because he was brought up by his mother's family, his father having died when he was young IIRC. Also, I'm unsurprised about a weird source in ShM"A, the Yosef Ometz brings the Sha'ar haKavvanot in his sefer, and he was certainly a choshuv Frankfurter Jekke. – Noach MiFrankfurt Jan 24 '17 at 1:13
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    @Noach some poskim discuss changing back to one's original nusach if something happened along the way that diverted it. Reb Moshe Feinstein and most others say to change back from nusach sfard (not sfardi) to ashkenaz as that was the original for all ashkenazim. Rabbi Yaakov Kaminetzky was from the minority who said to change back from ashkenaz to sfard as that is the nusach hakolel ( that's the terminology used to justify it's existence) and yes, Reb Y. K. davened nusach sfard:) But my point was more because Arizal said ones tefilos might not actually reach Hashem if he is using the wrong – user6591 Jan 24 '17 at 2:42
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I do believe that those followers of Rabbi Chaim Avraham Dov Ber Levine HaCohen (the Malachim) also daven the Chabad nusach. This is anecdotal, as I went to yeshiva with someone whose family identified with this group and he used a Tehillat haShem siddur.

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    Welcome to Mi Yodeya, Shmuel – Noach MiFrankfurt Jan 23 '17 at 21:29
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    That sounds right, as the Malachim did split from Lubavitch. – Noach MiFrankfurt Jan 23 '17 at 21:30
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    The Malochim are also Chabad. They just never accepted the seventh Rebbe of Lubavitch - R' Menachem Mendel Schneerson. I specifically asked for sects other than Chabad. – ezra Jan 23 '17 at 22:25
  • @ezra they didn't accept any of the last four Rebbes. The last one they held of was the Tzemach Tzedek. Maybe the Rebbe Maharash, as they split off in the lifetime of the Rebbe Rashab (who passed away in 1920). – Shmuel Brin Jan 23 '17 at 23:52
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    @NoachMiFrankfurt And that the Rebbe Rashab sided with his son over the Malach. – Shmuel Brin Jan 24 '17 at 3:37

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