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Why do we say a Tiskabel kaddish after Hallel on Rosh Hodesh and only a half-kaddish after Hallel on the other weekdays of Hanukka? What is the general principle and rationale?

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  • Why not also ask about the Kaddish after UVa LeTzion? On weekday-Chanukkah it's Kaddish-Tiskabel, but on RoshChodesh-Chanukkah it's half-Kaddish. The exact opposite phenomenon.
    – Double AA ♦
    Dec 27, 2016 at 17:13
  • @DoubleAA. Perhaps this swap is part of the answer, but I do not see exactly how.
    – Yehuda W
    Dec 27, 2016 at 17:20
  • @YehudaW It's actually obviously part of the question. But notice how you always get one Tiskabbel on any day.
    – Double AA ♦
    Dec 27, 2016 at 17:23
  • @DoubleAA. If the tiskabel kaddish comes at the end of a service (see #11 of beureihatefila.com/files/…), where is te end of the service on these different days?
    – Yehuda W
    Dec 27, 2016 at 17:30
  • If that's your question, consider asking it.
    – Double AA ♦
    Dec 27, 2016 at 17:31

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See Ba'er Hetev (par. 1) on O.C. 423:1

The general rule is that any time Musaf is said that day, Kaddish Titkabel is said after Hallel, because this marks the end of Shacharit.

We deduce from this, that as there is no Musaph said on Chanukah, we say only half Kaddish.

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    I would need to research further as to what the presence of Musaph does, specifically, that he states that "this is where he ends Shacharit". He seems to state that Torah reading is a separate item, yet we do have Torah reading on Chanukah, as well.
    – DanF
    Dec 27, 2016 at 18:39
  • Why does shacharit end before the torah reading on rosh hodesh but after the torah reading on the weekdays of hanukka?
    – Yehuda W
    Dec 29, 2016 at 13:27
  • @yehuda new questions should be asked separately. Too bad you mishandled this one...
    – Double AA ♦
    Jan 1, 2017 at 15:55
  • @DoubleAA I do not understand. My comment to this answer is a restatement of my question, as I see it. What am I missing?
    – Yehuda W
    Jan 2, 2017 at 14:09
  • @YehudaW It seems that you asked both why it's done - meaning you want to know WHAT the rule is. That's what I answered. There's a separate question embedded asking what is the reasoning behind that rule. Perhaps, that should be a separate question.
    – DanF
    Jan 2, 2017 at 21:29

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