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Let's say someone attaches a timer to a fuse / lighter that sends a spark to light the candles. Can lighting be done automatically, or must each candle be lit by human physical action, only?

As @Yehuda asked an interesting question if the person must be present, there is an opinion that one may say the bracha upon seeing the candles lit, even if hwe has not lit it himself (See Talmud Shabbat 23a). So, assume that the timer caused the candles to be lit, and while they were still lit, the home owner came into the room and saw the candles. Can he make the bracha and fulfill his obligation?

  • similar judaism.stackexchange.com/q/38014/759 – Double AA Dec 22 '16 at 18:22
  • I would say that the person has to be there to say the bracha so the timer would not work. However, that is logic only. I do not have a source. – sabbahillel Dec 22 '16 at 20:29
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    there are here several questions. The bediavad yotse sein is one thing and the beracha a second thing. – kouty Dec 22 '16 at 22:34
  • @kouty You're welcome to address either ot both issues. – DanF Dec 23 '16 at 4:03

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