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I'm learning Kiddushin this year and while I haven't yet gotten to the Sugya which delves deeply into the issue of how to derive kiddushei kesef from the gzera shava "Kicha Kicha" I know that kiddushei kesef is learned out from Avraham purchasing Ma'arat HaMachpela from Efron (Kiddushin 2a). From the fact we know that land can be bought with kesef we use a rule of parsimony to assume that the land Avraham actually was makne the me'ara with kesef.

Now as I was learning the parsha this morning and came to the point where Eliezer is mikadesh Rivka as a shaliach for Yitzchak it dawned upon me that this would have been a perfect source to learn out Kiddushei kesef.

וַיְהִ֗י כַּאֲשֶׁ֨ר כִּלּ֤וּ הַגְּמַלִּים֙ לִשְׁתּ֔וֹת וַיִּקַּ֤ח הָאִישׁ֙ נֶ֣זֶם זָהָ֔ב בֶּ֖קַע מִשְׁקָל֑וֹ וּשְׁנֵ֤י צְמִידִים֙ עַל־יָדֶ֔יהָ עֲשָׂרָ֥ה זָהָ֖ב מִשְׁקָלָֽם׃

(Breishit 24:22)

I am aware it is debated which one of Eliezer's two gifts actually constituted the Kiddushin. However I'm surprised this pasuk isn't even brought up in the Gemara.

  • Why do you think that the verse is referring to Kiddushin? – magicker72 Nov 27 '16 at 5:52
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    סיבלונות? Perhaps – kouty Nov 27 '16 at 6:23
  • She was a kitana, kidduchin was with her father, see seforno beraishis 24.61 sefaria.org/Sforno_on_Genesis.24.61.1 ketubot 48b . there was not kedushin before matan Torah.- what with it teach you by her? by the field it teaches you more rules but by rivka it will just be kidduchin not teaching you any rules, – hazoriz Nov 27 '16 at 17:01
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    "I am aware it is debated which one of Eliezer's two gifts actually constituted the Kiddushin" Source please – hazoriz Nov 27 '16 at 17:38
  • That verse is before he even proposes the marriage, no? – Double AA Nov 27 '16 at 19:37
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It is actually not clear that Eliezer was mikadesh Rivka at all, see Moshav Zekeinim and Pirkei Drebbi Eliezer chapter 16.

Also, even if he was mikadesh her, what reason would there be to assume that kiddushin post-Sinai works the same way? The gzera shava you mentioned is superior because it links Avraham's purchase to the current commandment of kiddushin in Ki Teitzei 24:1.

  • Can y explain what you have found in Pirke Derabbi Eliezer.? – kouty Nov 27 '16 at 22:10
  • @kouty My understanding is it's implied there that it was Nissuin that Eliezer performed, rather than kiddushin. (The first source says explicitly that it was not kiddushin, because Yitzchok would have been careful to be mikadesh her himself in accordance with the ideas expressed in Kiddushin 41a) – Jay Nov 27 '16 at 23:20

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