In the Y.K. Davening, we read about kohanim who kept trade secrets of the temple to themselves. One of these, Ben Kamtza, knew a way of writing gods name with four pens in one hand so all the letters complete at once.

I think the spelling is the same than Bar Kamtsa linked to Chorban but can't check now.

Are there any mephorshim that link the two personalities/families?

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    Which two? You mention one. – msh210 Oct 13 '16 at 14:32

In the Mishna Yoma the spelling is Ben KamtsaR "בן קמצר" with a "Resh". See the different versions in this edition's up right margin. Soncino's Translation in Gemara Yoma 38a:

Ben kamzar would not teach anyone his art of writing.

We find Kamtza in Gemara Gittin 55b:

אמר רבי יוחנן מאי דכתיב (משלי כח) אשרי אדם מפחד תמיד ומקשה לבו יפול ברעה אקמצא ובר קמצא חרוב ירושלים

R'Johanan said: What is illustrative of the verse, Happy is the man that feareth alway, but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief? The destruction of Jerusalem came through a Kamza and a Bar Kamza.

  • Isn't it fitting that someone who doesn't teach the art of writing has his name written wrong? – Clint Eastwood Jul 20 '17 at 14:31

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