Why is it that when the Israelites complain of not having sufficient food in Exodus 16:3 G-d is completely fine with fulfilling their desires.

3 The Israelites said to them, “If only we had died by the Lord’s hand in Egypt! There we sat around pots of meat and ate all the food we wanted, but you have brought us out into this desert to starve this entire assembly to death.”

In response G-d is totally willing to give them quail and manna in this verse.

Verse 13 states.

13 That evening quail came and covered the camp, and in the morning there was a layer of dew around the camp.

Now this is contrasted with Numbers 11 where G-d promises quail for an entire month, but once the rebellious Israelites receive this quail they are all killed.

Numbers 11:33

33 But while the meat was still between their teeth and before it could be consumed, the anger of the Lord burned against the people, and he struck them with a severe plague.

What exactly was the difference between these two events? Why does G-d initially promise a month supply of quail, but then smites them before they can even consume it?

  • See Ramban (to both places), Chizkuni, and Abarbanel (to Bamidbar 11), plus Rabbeinu Yonah's commentary to Avos 5:4. None of them phrase the question as you do exactly, but their comments basically answer it indirectly. See also R. Bechor Shor to both places, who believes that these two sections are referring to the same incident. This is a common trend of his - R. Bechor Shor also collapses the multiple censuses (Shemos 38:25) and the two versions of the rock-water well (Bamidbar 20:8) Commented Jun 18, 2019 at 2:45

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There are various answers to this question, links here (Shemos) and here (Bamidbar):

Targum Pseudo-Yonasan suggests that it is because they did not offer the proper thanks for the quail in Sefer Bamidbar:

רשיעיא הוון אכלין מביסרא ולמן דיהביה להון לא הוו מברכין בישרא עד כדון הוה ביני ככיהון עד לא פסק ורוגזא דייי תקיף ברשיעי עמא וקטל ייי בעמא קטול סגי לחדא.‏

The wicked ate of the flesh, yet offered no thanksgiving to Him who had given it to them: but while the flesh was between their teeth, and not consumed, the anger of the Lord waxed strong against the evil people, and the Lord slew the people with a very great mortality.

Ibn Caspi understands that the second time the people ate it for much longer, and were therefore destroyed:

כי זה השלו שאכלו אבותינו שתי פעמים היה ממין אחד גדל במים, רק כי עתה לא אכלוהו אלא יום אחד, ופעם השנית עד אשר יצא מאפם לכן היתה המגפה בם.

The Chizkuni understands that they desired it more the second time, and were therefore punished:

ותעל השלו – מתנת השלו לא הייתה אלא באותה שעה ולפיכך לקמן בפרשת בהעלותך התאוו תאוה מי יאכילנו בשר ונתן להם פעם שנית כדאיתא בפר״ש כי בשני התאוו יותר

Rabbi Yosef Bechor Shor actually understands that it was all one event, in which case the question is not relevant:

ויהי בערב ותעל השליו – כמדומה אני שזה שליו של בהעלותך (במדבר י״א:ל״א-ל״ב), אלא שאגב שדיבר במן, דיבר בשליו. תדע דאי ראה משה שבא להם שליו פעם אחת והספיקם, היאך יאמר הצאן ובקר ישחט להם ומצא להם (במדבר י״א:כ״ב).‏


The Midrash (Bamidbar Rabbah 15:24, from Tanchuma Beha'alosecha) answers this question in the process of answering a different one:

כְּשֶׁחָזְרוּ וּבָכוּ וּבִקְּשׁוּ בָּשָׂר, אִם נֹאמַר בְּשַׂר חַיָּה, כָּל מַה שֶּׁבִּקְּשׁוּ נַעֲשָׂה לָהֶם, הַמָּן לְתוֹךְ פִּיהֶם, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (תהלים קו, טו): וַיִּתֵּן לָהֶם שֶׁאֱלָתָם (תהלים עח, כט): וְתַאֲוָתָם יָבִא לָהֶם, אִם נֹאמַר שֶׁלֹא הָיָה לָהֶם שׁוֹר וּבְהֵמָה, וַהֲלוֹא כְּבָר נֶאֱמַר: וְגַם עֵרֶב רַב עָלָה אִתָּם וְצֹאן וּבָקָר, אִם נֹאמַר אֲכָלוּם בַּמִּדְבָּר, וַהֲלוֹא כְתִיב (במדבר לכ, א): וּמִקְנֶה רַב הָיָה לִבְנֵי רְאוּבֵן.

מִכָּאן אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן לֹא נִתְאַוּוּ בָּשָׂר, אֶלָּא שְׁאֵר בָּשָׂר, שֶׁכֵּן הוּא אוֹמֵר (תהלים עח, כז): וַיַּמְטֵר עֲלֵיהֶם כֶּעָפָר שְׁאֵר, וְאֵין שְׁאֵר אֶלָּא עֲרָיוֹת, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (ויקרא יח, ו): אִישׁ אִישׁ אֶל כָּל שְׁאֵר בְּשָׂרוֹ, הֱוֵי שֶׁכָּךְ בִּקְּשׁוּ, לְהַתִּיר לָהֶם אֶת הָעֲרָיוֹת, וְכֵן הוּא אוֹמֵר (במדבר יא, י): וַיִּשְׁמַע משֶׁה אֶת הָעָם בֹּכֶה לְמִשְׁפְּחֹתָיו, כְּשֶׁבִּקְּשׁוּ כָּךְ, לְכָךְ (במדבר יא, י): וַיִּחַר אַף ה' מְאֹד וּבְעֵינֵי משֶׁה רָע

When they wept once more and requested meat: If they requested the meat of a wild animal, within their mouths the manna became whatever they desired, as it says (Tehillim 106:15; 78:29), "And He gave them their request," "for He brought them their craving." And if we say they had no oxen or domesticated animals, is it not already stated (Shemos 12:38), "and a mixed multitude also went up with them, and flock and cattle"? And if we will say that they had already eaten them in the desert, is it not written (Bamidbar 32:1), "the children of Reuven had abundant livestock"?

From here R' Shimon said: they did not crave meat, but rather close relatives, as it says (Tehillim 78:27), "And He rained down upon them she'eir like dust," and she'eir only means illicit relations, as it says (Vayikra 18:6), "and man [shall not approach] his close relative (she'eir besaro)." It must be that they wanted to permit for themselves illicit relations [which, we see above, are also called basar]. And so does it say (in our passage, v. 10), "Moshe heard the people weeping by their families" [i.e. that they could not have relations with their families - Matnos Kehunah, from Yoma 75a], and therefore [that verse continues], "The wrath of HaShem flared greatly, and it was bad in the eyes of Moshe."

In conclusion: the story in Beha'alosecha had nothing at all to do with them wanting meat, but that they wanted to have illicit relations with close relatives. It is for this reason that they were punished. It was a completely different story than the one in Beshalach, where they made a perfectly reasonable request asking HaShem to give them food. Why He killed them through quail, specifically, is an excellent question that may be addressed separately.

  • So if they didn't want or need meat why did they ask for meat?
    – larry909
    Commented Jun 19, 2022 at 6:11

Rav Hirsch explains on Beshalach 16:4 that He is not providing the food as a result of the dissatisfaction, but to teach them the lesson that He has already prepared the food in order to teach them the lessons that they must learn.

When I led the people into the desert I had decided to provide them with food in this way.

Hashem is now teaching them that they must be ready to accept that Hashem will provide each day the necessities of that day. 16:5 shows that everyone will be granted the precise amount decreed for him no matter how hard he works and that the sixth day will be double so that they will not need to work on the Shabbat.

Rav Hirsch points out in 16:6 that the quail is due to the complaints, but here too it is a lesson that Hashem hears and understands everything that is going on and pays attention to every word.

The Bnai Yisrael were at this time like little children who do not understand that they can trust that they will be provided for. Thus they cried as soon as they started to feel hungry and did not yet understand how they were to be supported.

The complainers starting in 11:1, the people did not pick up on the lesson that they should have learned. They started to complain and Hashem caused a fire to break out at the edge of the camp. They now cried in fear and Moshe prayed and the fire died down. However, far from learning their lesson, they actually pushed themselves to be worse. As Rav hirsch translates 11:4

But the rabble that they had taken in among them goaded themselves on to desires and then the Children of Israel also again began to weep and they said: Who shall give us meat to eat?

That had been getting the man which was miraculous sustenance and provided everything they needed. Hashem said the He would provide the quail for a month until they were sick of it. This would show that they are going to far in their complaints. As it says in 11:20

But even for a full month until it comes out your nose and nauseates you. Because you have despised the Lord Who is among you, and you cried before Him, saying, "Why did we ever leave Egypt?"

However, even this was not enough for them. As Rav Hirsch said on 11:32

Both greed and mistrust in the assurance that Moses had brought them are shown in this rush to gather the quails.

As a result, the lesson that would have taken a full month, fell upon them at once.

Rashi had said on 11:20

But even for a full month: This [concerned] the [comparatively] virtuous ones, who languish on their beds and later their soul departs. But concerning the wicked ones it says, “the meat was still between their teeth [… when the anger of the Lord flared…]” (verse 33). This is how it is taught in the Sifrei (Beha’alothecha 1:42:20), but in the Mechilta (Beshallach, Vayassa 3:13) the opposite is taught: the wicked ate and suffered [as a result] for thirty days, whereas [concerning] the virtuous-“the meat was still between their teeth” [thus, they did not suffer prolonged agony].

  • This doesn't explain the incident in Exodus, where it is implied that the Israelites ate manna during the day and quail at night throughout their time in the wilderness. The Commented Sep 25, 2018 at 16:06
  • Specifically, 16:12 reads "By evening you shall eat flesh, and by morning you shall eat your fill of bread, and you shall know that I, Hashem, are your G-d." Commented Sep 25, 2018 at 16:13

Refer to Siforno as well as Orach Hachaim commentaries on Bemidbar 11:32. From a simple reading of the verse, it seems that Moshe is denying G-d's ability to satisfy the nation's food requests. However, this was not Moshe's intention.

The question was more to the point where Moshe was telling G-d, "These people have manna and quail already. They also can get food by slaughtering their animals. Thus, even if you (G-d) provided them with all the meat and fish in the world, they would still complain, because they are not requesting food. They are inventing a pretext to complain to you."

Hence, the punishment the second time. They were complaining for no valid reason.

  • But even when people complain for no valid reason there has to be some validity in their own eyes for their complaint. What rationale was there for the complaint?
    – larry909
    Commented Jun 19, 2022 at 10:05

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