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Many times I find a maariv minyan praying before shkia, can I pray mincha with them? Is this considered tefila biTzibur?

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  • Can you explain m e the side of the safek which says that it is not tefila betsibur? – kouty Aug 23 '16 at 8:38
  • @kouty You are not praying the same thing at all as the rest of the tzibbur - the structure and intent of their prayers does not match your own, and there will be no chazaras hashatz of your "mincha" shmone esrei. They're saying the Shema and its brachos you're not, an established minyan like the one referenced in the question is permitted to engage in tartei disasrei with their early ma'ariv and you as an individual can't (and technically aren't?)... So many reasons why you could argue that a late coming individual wouldn't be counted as part of that minyan... – Isaac Kotlicky Aug 23 '16 at 11:49
  • @Issac One just needs to be present. He doesn't need to actually daven with the tzibbur. Why is it any worse when he's davening something else? – DonielF Aug 23 '16 at 13:33
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it is not considered b'Tzibur, due to mincah and Maarav contradicting each other. Either it's considered day i.e. Z'man Mincha or night, you can not have both at the same time

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