I'm assuming that Mussaf and Shaharis are not me'akev each other - missing one doesn't prevent you from davening the other, provided it's still during the appropriate time range.

Under that assumption, if one misses Shacharis, how does he daven Mussaf? Does he begin from Ashrei-U'va Letzion? From Shemoneh Esreh itself? (Assume we're dealing with a Yachid.)

Granted that Hallel is also a separate mitzvah (as indicated by its bracha of "likro es hahallel," as opposed to a sub-mitzvah of davening), if one misses Shacharis, must he say Hallel before Mussaf, or may he recite it after? If before, does he say it in the usual place, before Ashrei?

(Side note: I don't believe that these are two separate questions as both deal with the order of davening when Shacharis is missed, and answering one may help answer the other.)

  • First daven mincha. Or is this after Mincha has been prayed
    – Double AA
    Aug 7, 2016 at 15:31
  • @DoubleAA There isn't a window between end of Shacharit and start of Mincha?
    – Scimonster
    Aug 7, 2016 at 15:32
  • @Scimonster Half an hour. Is this question limited to that time?
    – Double AA
    Aug 7, 2016 at 15:46
  • I wasn't even thinking about when to daven Mincha when I wrote this question. I was asking specifically in terms of how to daven Mussaf.
    – DonielF
    Aug 7, 2016 at 16:11
  • @DonielFilreis Whether or not you were thinking of it, it seems just as relevant as Hallel is.
    – Double AA
    Aug 7, 2016 at 16:21

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Mussaf and Shaharit are not me'akev each other. The proper order is to say it after shaharit based on Rambam (Tefillah 9:13-4) and Shulchan Aruch 286:1. This is primarily based on the principle of Tadir VeSheino Tadir-the more common takes precedence as said by Rabbenu Yonah 19a says that even though Mussaf could be said all day it should be said after Shacharit.

If time for Shaharit is missed and its after 6.5 hours into the day:

(Yalkut Yosef shabbat 286.14) If an individual did not recite the musaf prayer until the time when one may recite minha prayer, he must recite the minha prayer before the musaf prayer. The earliest time one can pray minha is 6.5 hours into the day called Minha Gedola (the Tur 233:1 sets this as the primary time.) According to Rambam (Tefillah 3:2-3) the preferred time is 9.5 hours into the day and be'diavad 6.5 hours. The Shulchan Aruch 233:1, rules like the Rambam and Mishna Brurah (ibid), concurs with the Rambam and S'A, adding that if there is a need one can pray the earlier time.
As a result, this translates in to the normal order of minha (depending on your particular custom and whether it is Shabbat, Yom tov, Rosh Hodesh, etc..) at minimal ashre then uva-letzion (if it wasn't said in morning order) then the amida of minha then amida of mussaf. This is not considered a make-up for having missed mussaf, only that mussaf can be prayed anytime within this time frame, which again follows the above principle of the more common takes precedence.

If missed Amida of Shaharit and its before 4 hours into the day:

YY 286.12 says that if one prayed amida of mussaf before amida of shacharit he has fulfilled his obligation but be'diavad, in other words you can't intend to pray amida of mussaf prior to amida of shacharit. The proper order would be to pray shaharit first before mussaf.

S'A 52.1 and Yalkut Yosef 1.65: List the minimum one must pray in order to pray amida of shaharit together is the full Shema Yisrael with the blessings and then proceed with the full amida of shaharit. If one calculates more time then he adds additional passage (ad loc.) from the pesuke dezimra and if one calculates more time he adds more passages (ad loc.) and so on. As a result, if the tzibur already finished the amida of shaharit and one came late and you can still catch up with the tzibur to say the mussaf amida together then you can follow S'A 52.1 order of one that came late and can still catch up to pray together with the tzibbur. Otherwise you have to pray the normal order of Shaharit before you can pray mussaf.

If missed Amida of Shaharit and after 4 hours into the day but before 6 hours into the day:

RAMBAM (tefillah 3.1) time for shaharit extends till 4th hour if it is missed one errors and prays after, he fulfills his obligation be'deavad. RAMBAM (tefillah 3.5) Proper time for Mussaf is after shaharit and before the 7th hour. The proper order here would be the same as above for praying shaharit first before mussaf and the items that you can skip to catch up.

RAMBAM (tefillah 3.9) If one hasn't prayed shaharit until 6th hour of the day, it is proper to read minha twice. And in the case of mussaf, one will follows the order of praying minha then mussaf and then shaharit (YY 286.14)

If one wants to pray mussaf before minha, See the following link (halachipedia) Tosfot (Brachot 28a s.v. Halacha) quotes the Ri who says that one only has to pray Mincha before Mussaf if one plans on praying both at this time however if one plans to say Mincha later one may pray Mussaf now. However, the anonymous first opinion of Tosfot argues. The Rashba sides with the Ri (and infers it from the language of the Gemara) and quotes the Teshuvat Goanim which also agrees. The Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 19a s.v. VeYesh) comes up with this same idea on his own. The Tur 286:3 quotes it as a dispute but then writes that the Rosh would pray by himself and leave the minyan in order to pray mussaf before the time for Mincha comes. The Bet Yosef 286:4 quotes all the above rishonim who hold like the Ri. The S”A 286:4 writes the simple halacha that Mincha precedes mussaf and then quotes the opinion of the Ri (implying that the halacha doesn’t follow the Ri).

If praying alone

There is no general leniency that I am aware of that allows you to skip parts of the order of Shaharit before proceeding to the order of Mussaf. The order of prayer is setup the way it is for many reasons and one can't break them unless he really knows what he is doing. This would have to be answered by your Rav or at least a competent Rav (if you don't have a personal Rav to go to) and depending on your personal situation he will recommend the path to follow.

  • This doesn't exactly answer my question. What parts between Shemoneh Esrei of Shacharis and Shemoneh Esrei of Mussaf do you say before Mussaf if you missed Shacharis? Your post only addresses whether Mussaf comes before or after Mincha.
    – DonielF
    Aug 7, 2016 at 23:42
  • @DonielFilreis See edits to the answer
    – Double AA
    Aug 10, 2016 at 17:21
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    "If one missed the amida of shacharit and it is still before 6.5 seasonal hours into the day one should pray shacharit first before mussaf." Can you cite that, please? I thought 6 hours was the cutoff for shacharis.
    – msh210
    Aug 10, 2016 at 19:22
  • Yes, you are right I will clarify.
    – AZav_nov
    Aug 10, 2016 at 22:13

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