In Kiddushin mishnayos 4:2, it says:

And which are the shetukim? Anyone who knows [who] his mother [is], but does not know [who] his father [is]. And which are the asufim? Anyone who was gathered in from the market, and does not know [who] either his father or his mother [is]. Abba Shaul would call the shetukei, "investigated ones."

If someone never physically met their father, but has various information about him, such as his last name, possibly full name, his profession, his brother's profession etc., are they a shituk? (It is also known he, the father, is Jewish)

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    Does he know the father wasn't a Mamzer/Natin/etc.?
    – Double AA
    May 23, 2016 at 22:29
  • What difference will it make?
    – hazoriz
    May 24, 2016 at 12:38
  • @hazoriz I think if there was a chazakah he was a mamzer/natin/etc. then you could ask that question about being a shituk
    – Fei23
    May 24, 2016 at 14:19
  • @Fei23 I do not understand🤔, (I was asking about what difference will it make if someone is a shetuki in our time?)
    – hazoriz
    May 24, 2016 at 14:21
  • @hazoriz I thought you were referencing DoubleAA's question. Well perhaps shetuki is different than mamzer, and it's a lot easier to have a chazakah, e.g the above situation.
    – Fei23
    May 24, 2016 at 14:32


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