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Disclaimer: I do know of the Machon Shilo Siddur Eretz Yisrael, although according to folks I know who have studied the issue, it is not a true nusach e"y siddur.

Is there a complete siddur with the text according to Nusach Eretz Yisrael available, other than the above mentioned Machon Shilo version, either online or in print?

  • Nusach Eretz Yisrael is just compilations of Eretzyisraeli snippets of things AFAIK. – Double AA Mar 13 '16 at 23:09
  • @DoubleAA, I was under the impression that there were large enough fragments available to accurately reconstruct the full seder tefillah. I do know that we have yotzerot for every day of the week (eg. Hakol Yoducha for Shabbat) and that shir shel yom was said in Pesukei dezimrah. – Noach MiFrankfurt Mar 13 '16 at 23:12
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    I spoke recently to Rabbi Bar Chaim. He told me the siddur that was put out some time ago called "Nusach Eretz Yisrael" was made by a talmid of his. I understand it's not the "official" siddur nusach eretz yisrael "endorsed" by Machon Shilo. As I understood it he is working on a new version that will be put out by the Machon. – Yehoshua Mar 14 '16 at 1:57
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    @Dude, if it follows the nusach set out in the Yerushalmi and by Geonei Eretz Yisrael prior to the first crusade (when the kehilla was destroyed) it is Nusach E"Y. Much like Nusach Bavel, Nusach Ashkenaz, Nusach Sepharad, or Nusach Edot Hamizrach, there are variations. – Noach MiFrankfurt Mar 20 '16 at 1:49
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    Update on the siddur: The "Machon Shilo" Nusach Eretz Yisrael siddur isn't really from Machon Shilo. It was organized in great part by Rav Yehoshua Boch and the publication took place with the support of those involved with Machon Shilo. In terms of the machon and Rav David Bar Chaim, I would say it at best has their "support" but not full endorsement. Rav David Bar Chaim as mentioned is working on the official siddur and meanwhile davens actually from another siddur (all I could see is that it is in a spiral bound notebook form) ... – Yehoshua Jul 17 '16 at 10:37
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The closest you can get is the Nusach Eretz Yisrael siddur compiled and publisehd by Shaki.

You can also get a small mincha siddur on the OpenSiddur Project here.

The best place for information about Nusach Eretz Yisrael and the Siddur is on the Hebrew Wiki page:

You can buy the new version of the siddur here:

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Artscroll still publishes Siddur Ner Naftali, which is available in the standard Nusachim with "adaptations for use in Israel". What's available from Machon Shilo looks like the best, most specific option.

  • This is not a Nusach Eretz Yisrael siddur. See this to properly understand what Nusach E''Y actually is. The siddur you linked is simply a Bavli siddur adapted for use in Israel, based on the common minhagim. – ezra May 16 '17 at 5:07
  • Also see this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bar-Hayim#Land_of_Israel – ezra May 16 '17 at 5:08
  • The Ner Naftali and the Machon Shilo are two completely different things. Putting them together in the same answer indicates two different understandings of the question, which is just confusing. Machon Shilo is trying to follow the ancient nussach of Israel, which is what the question was referring to. Artscroll is not trying to present a distinct liturgy that was present in ancient Israel, but is presenting a modern Ashkenazi text, with couple of minor variations that have become popular in modern day Israel for whatever reason. – mevaqesh May 16 '17 at 16:17
  • That being the case, you cant even say Machon Shilo is better, since they are two completely different] things. – mevaqesh May 16 '17 at 16:18

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