If I find myself in a situation where davening with a particular minyan will be detrimental to my kavana, should I daven b'yechidut but with a better focus and concentration, or should I stay with the minyan for the advantages that a minyan gives (either by virtue of being able to say things an individual can't say, or because b'rov am hadrat melech) even though it is more likely that my lack of kavana will lead to davening which can't make me yotzei my obligation to daven.

Note, this is not about speed, but about talking, noise and ba'alei tefilla who mispronounce, are tone deaf or don't know what they are saying. The entire davening experience is one which is actively detrimental to kavana. Halevai the davening should be faster...

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    Possible duplicate of Too fast or no minyan?
    – Scimonster
    Mar 11, 2016 at 14:41
  • @Scimonster that one has answers (starting earlier, saying certain things at home, skipping things and saying them later). My question is about the entirety of the davening experience. There is no real compromise position.
    – rosends
    Mar 11, 2016 at 14:45
  • I don't have time to summarize this right now, but Rabbi Eliezer Melamed discusses this here.
    – Cauthon
    Mar 11, 2016 at 14:47
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    @Cauthon a number of the answers seem to be on point and clear: מניין –. מעלת המניין מעל הכוונה שלנו
    – rosends
    Mar 11, 2016 at 15:15
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    possible dupe judaism.stackexchange.com/q/66554/759
    – Double AA
    Mar 11, 2016 at 22:29


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