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The liturgical poem beginning "Adon olam" is often sung (including as part of prayer services) to the same tune as "The Poet and the Prophet". Was that tune originally to (i.e. written for) Adon Olam? If so, who wrote it and when? If not, who put it to Adon Olam and when?

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When The Village Stompers first released it in 1963, we believed that it was indeed an instrumentalization of (an already existing tune for) Adon Olam. I do not know if they ever "officially" announced it as such, but it seemed obvious (to us) that it was the same. I do know that we used it at summer camp. I think that the summer camp was the summer before, because I went to Eretz Yisrael the next summer (1964) I do know that after it was released, we all assumed that it had been based on Adon Olam.

Of course since it was so long ago, I could be mistaken about having heard it that summer and conflated it with having heard it during the trip to Israel (the following summer). Even if it was based on Adon Olam, the author could have written an original tune for it. Since it was over 50 years ago, I can no longer be sure.

Note that I have found comments of people who recognized it as Adon Olam, but no references going that far back.

I did find Poet and The Prophet lists the authors as Joe Sherman(C) and George David Weiss(A)

Copyright date is shown as 20 December 1963.

Of course, given our "musical knowledge" at that time, it could have been the reverse and we still would have believed it.

See the answer by @ShamanSTK who seems to be able to connect it to a melody that was used in (at least) the 1950's that may have been the base of the song that Sherman wrote for the Village Stompers.

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    so can you attest to the tune's being used for Adon Olam before 1963? What are the writing credits for the tune? (either wikipedia nor their website provides info). The VS had 6 songs in the top 200 in 1963 and 4. At least 3 were covers so just having a recording date doesn't attest to a creation date. – rosends Feb 5 '16 at 11:15
  • @Danno I added the link to the authors and copyright date. However as I say, I cannot be sure if I heard it the summer before or after it was released. I do know that we assumed that it was based on adon olam – sabbahillel Feb 5 '16 at 14:00
  • thanks for the Copyright info -- if you assumed it was based on, then you knew the tune before you heard the song? – rosends Feb 5 '16 at 14:10
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    @Danno unless the fact that it fit so well meant that we assumed the instrumental must have been based on Adon Olam. There may have been an interview with one of the authors but I do not know for sure (it was over 50 years ago). Even if it was based on Adon Olam, he may have written an original tune for it. – sabbahillel Feb 5 '16 at 14:13
  • This answer says that, most likely, the Village Stompers didn't write the tune. That's useful info, and I thank you, but it certainly doesn't fully answer the question, which was who did write the tune (more precisely, who put it to "Adon olam"). That said, it's sort-of a partial answer in that it (most likely) eliminates the Village Stompers as possible authors, which obviously I was considering as a possibility. +1, but I'm still looking for a real answer.... – msh210 Feb 5 '16 at 20:48
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Salamone de Rossi, a renaissance composer, wrote an Adon Olam. The base line sounds like the modern tune to my ears. YouTube link.

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  • I'm not hearing the resemblance. But I'm untrained in music. (For example, I can't aurally pick out the bassline from that piece.) – msh210 Feb 5 '16 at 20:49
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    @msh210 it's not as exact as the other song, but that was based on the Hebrew, not vice versa. According to my boss, who grew up in the fifties, it was the tune then. – ShamanSTK Feb 5 '16 at 21:02

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