Regarding 'walking between women', I have an especially hard time with this in shul when i come out of the room we daven in into the hallway. It is difficult to go by without waiting for them which is a big טרחה for me. Any suggestions or leniencies regarding this.

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    Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/1875
    – Fred
    Dec 29, 2015 at 3:39
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    I heard a "heter" to hold something in your hand, and more often I heard it to hold a mitzvah in your hand ie tzitzis or a saifer
    – hazoriz
    Dec 29, 2015 at 3:48
  • @hazoriz When entering a wedding hall or the like where there were women on either side of the entrance, I heard of one prominent rav who would carry a sefer with him as some sort of barrier, and another prominent rav who would grab one of his students and walk through together with him. (One of them was R' Henoch Leibowitz, but I unfortunately do not recall which).
    – Fred
    Dec 29, 2015 at 5:12
  • Since when is a big טרחה an excuse in Halacha? :-) Dec 29, 2015 at 8:45
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    @DannySchoemann People with the same first name tend to have great minds that think alike!
    – DanF
    Dec 30, 2015 at 13:43

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First of all, it's not so obvious that this is prohibited in the first place. Pesachim 111a says that a person is not allowed to walk between two woman or have a woman walk between you (a man) and a friend, and the context there implies that this is a dangerous thing to do (probably because of something related to magic or ruach ra'ah, see Eliyah Rabbah 3:10 and Shulchan Aruch Harav Hil. Shemiras Guf Vehanefesh 9). The Gemara in Horayos 13b also writes that doing so would cause someone to forget his Torah learning. Based on this, because there is a prohibition to forget one's learning, R. Nosson Gestenter (Shut Lehoros Noson 1:59:14) and R. Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld (Shut Salmas Chaim Siman 83 and 90) both write that there is a Biblical prohibition to walk in between two women. However, R. Sonnenfeld also writes that perhaps one doesn't need to be so careful about this because we can assume that most women are not niddos, and that is where the real danger lies.

To the point, though, the Ben Yehoyada on the Gemara writes that nowadays, when we don't encounter demons and the like (which is the context of the Gemara in Pesachim), there's no need to prohibit walking between two women; the Gemara was only speaking for their times when sheidim were around more. R. Aryeh Lebowitz says that in general, we are not usually so concerned for all of the Gemara's medical (and magical) advice, and because the Rambam and Shulchan Aruch don't quote this halacha, one does not need to worry about it.

If you are worried about it, though, it may be whatever problem arises from this can seemingly be solved either by saying a pasuk (or series of pesukim) that begins and ends with אל or לא, as the Gemara in Pesachim states (and Maharsha in Horayos implies that this solves the problem for forgetting Torah as well, though perhaps not). Additionally, the book Halachically Speaking II by R. Moshe Dovid Lebovitz quotes that holding an object in one's hand also works to make this permitted.

  • Horayos 23b ???
    – Double AA
    Dec 29, 2015 at 14:50
  • @DoubleAA 13b, that's a typo obviously Dec 29, 2015 at 15:20

Netay Gabriel hilchus yichud chaper 57 (footnotes there bring sources)

From Paragraph 1: he brings opinion that indoors no problem.
From Paragraph 3: if they (the woman) are all staying or walking in one place no problem (from the source he brings (shilmas Chaim part 2 chapter 35 it is not clear to me what he meens, maybe it is a misprint).
From Paragraph 6: if they (the woman) are not set together, and if waking with someone else no problem.
From Paragraph 7: if needs to stand between 2 woman should hold something or his payios.
From end of Footnote 9: a belt is a separation.
From Paragraph 9: if transgressed what to do to fix

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