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1. If the father commands his son to tell his (the son's) wife to do something, does the son have a mitzvah to listen if it is not against the torah?

(Since I see that mitzvah is also to listen to him when talking to others unless it is against torah (ahavas Yesroel, not go hate a Jew) from yora daiya 240.16)

2. Does a woman need to respect her parents in-law (as a man does yora daiya 240.24) (as is by a single woman to her parents yora daiya 240.17)?

3. If yes, what is the level of this respect  

Is it like a man’s to his in laws (respect as to an importent old man (shach 240.22 and pischai teshuva 240.20) even if he is not) or is it more since we see that a few times if you need to respect someone that needs to respect someone you also do (see the above pischai teshuva) or not since we need to respect the grandparents less than parents ramo yora daiya 240.24

Sources appreciated

PS from chukas hanoshim CH. 12 of the Ben ish hai it seems that she should even not get angry if her mother in law abuses her

Ben ish chai, chukas hanoshim

  • Unclear what you're asking - too many semi-intertwined questions and concepts. – Danny Schoemann Nov 29 '15 at 9:51
  • @DannySchoemann Does this help? – hazoriz Nov 29 '15 at 12:05
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The Shulchan Aruch, at Yoreh Deah 240:24, clearly states that the duty to honor one's parents extends, at least for the son, to one's in-laws. David considered himself duty bound in this way when his father in law, King Saul, was trying to kill him. When Saul walked into a cave where David was hiding, David had the opportunity to kill Saul first, but, instead, cut off a piece of Saul's skirt. When Saul left the cave, David ran after him. He presented the piece of cloth as evidence that he could have killed Saul, but did not, saying, "See, my father! Also, see the skirt of your coat in my hand, for in that I severed the skirt of your coat and I did not kill you, know and see that there is neither evil nor transgression in my hand, and I have not sinned against you, but you are stalking my soul to take it." 1 Samuel 24:12. But David might well be excused by his father-in-law's conduct towards him; the Shuchan Aruch, at Yoreh Deah 240:19 advises parents to not to be too demanding. I have seen couples break up because a son took his mother's side over his wife's on every issue where they disagreed. Consistent with both rules, a daughter- or son-in-law should always be respectful to their in-laws, and the in-laws should remember that their child is a grown-up and should be given liberty to make decisions with his or her spouse that might vary from time to time with your sage counsel (recognize, your child is also getting advice from his or her in-laws, and must respect them as well).

The Talmud reflects that getting along with the in-laws is not easy. At Eruvin 86a, the discussion is about establishing an eeruv within a court yard shared by homeowners, and whether the absence of one home owner (and his non-participation in the weekly eruv setting) effects the status of the eruv. In the Mishna, Rav Shimon rules that the eruv is unaffected (the absent owner is not needed to participate) if one owner leaves his home to visit his married daughter because we know he has no intent to return before Shabbat is over. The Gemara agrees, but Rav notes that if the homeowner went to visit his married son, we assume he will have a fight with his daughter-in-law and will be back before Shabbat ends. Hence, his participation in the making of the eruv is essential.

  • Re "seen couples break up" to me it seems the reason for this is the midos of the wife are not strong and the husband probably does not respect her as he is required by law in other questions (that do not have to do with his mother), – hazoriz Nov 30 '15 at 18:59
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    I do not see information regarding a DAUGHTER in law, I added a source to the question (chukas hanoshim) – hazoriz Nov 30 '15 at 19:01
  • @hazoriz Why wouldn't the warning, in the Shulchan Aruch, Yoreh Deah 240:19, that parents not be too demanding, be controlling also to in-laws? As I noted, I've seen marriages broken up because the choson always did what his mama wanted and did not listen to the desires of his wife. As an experienced in-law, I know that a parent has to take a step back and let the kids grow up and build their own bayis ne'eman, even if it wasn't exactly the one I dreamed of for them. – Bruce James Nov 30 '15 at 20:42
  • the shulchan aruch gives a reason I understand it simply that if he will be demanding he is causing his children to be oiver a mitzvas asai, i do not understand why your example of marriages braking is a proof for anything, letting you in-laws build there own Bais is a halachakli kosher way of doing it, but it is not the only way – hazoriz Nov 30 '15 at 20:48
  • I gave you the +1 – hazoriz Nov 30 '15 at 20:49

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