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My understanding is that most Ashkenazic communities today don't eat green beans on Passover, treating them as kitniyot (a bunch of legumes for which the custom arose to avoid on Passover). What's the earliest source/discussion on this?

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    When it comes to Pesach, you can find customs prohibiting almost anything, from potatoes to carrots to coffee. Are you looking specifically for an opinion that green beans are kitniyos? Commented Mar 18, 2015 at 6:30

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Sefer She'arim HaMetzuyanim BeHalacha (published appx 1950), commenting on the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch (Siman 117, Si'if Katan 7), mentions that green beans and, apparently, peas, may be considered Kitniyos as well.

http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14619&st=&pgnum=113

I have since found online in the name of Rabbi Elazar M'Vermiza רבי אלעזר מוורמייזא that he said in a Pesach Drasha that we do not eat "Polin V'Adashim" since there is wheat mixed in with them.

בדרשה לפסח של רבי אלעזר מוורמייזא הוא מספר בקצרה "ומה שאין אוכלין פולין ועדשים, מפני שיש בהן חיטין"

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  • Hm, it seems like every source he's quoting is saying green beans should be okay, no?
    – Shalom
    Commented Mar 24, 2011 at 19:57
  • Read it again.. Commented Mar 24, 2011 at 20:26
  • Wikipedia: Green beans are the unripe fruit of any kind of bean ... varieties have been bred especially for ... their pods. Here's my reading of the source: "Yad Yitzchak prohibited legumes that are still green and in their pods, but the immature ones, i.e. pods in which the seeds haven't sprouted, were allowed ... they weren't included in the prohibition and it makes no sense for the prohibition to apply to them ... See Maharash who prohibited legumes-in-the-pod, but the pods alone weren't a question ... see similarly in Eshel Avraham ...
    – Shalom
    Commented Mar 25, 2011 at 13:01
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    I spoke over this question with Rav Ephraim Greenblatt. He was clueless as to why anyone would say that green-beans are kitniyos. He seemed unaware that people did not eat them on Pesach. I spoke to Dayan Fuerst (of Chicago) about it one Purim and (I do not believe he was being serious) he said "It's because they are called beans! Another point: Shearim Metzuyanim BeHalacha and other recent "Likut Seforim" and responsa call it "Gezeiras Kitniyos". There never was a gezeirah. Rav Moshe Feinstein explains that the Rabbanim were manhig (led, guided) their followers to not eat it. It is a minhag.
    – Yahu
    Commented Mar 25, 2011 at 13:41
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    Why do you translate פולין as green-beans and עדשים as peas???
    – Double AA
    Commented Mar 20, 2015 at 5:04
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Greenbeans are technically the fruit of P. vulgaris, a plant whose cultivars produce kidney beans, navy beans, and pinto beans, which are considered kitniyot in common Ashkenazi practice.

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  • I don't understand how this answers the question. Leaves aren't Kitniyot. How do you know pods, which can't be ground into flour and don't resemble wheat in any way, are Kitniyot?
    – Double AA
    Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 15:29
  • @DoubleAA, the pods contain beans, which may be dried and ground into flour. Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 16:30
  • Is that true? How do you know that? And did anyone do that? Does anyone do that? Just because there is a mini-bean-fetus in there doesn't make it a fruit. Seemingly you couldn't separate Maaser yet, for instance. It's not Pol HaLavan / Shlish Giddul, I'd think.
    – Double AA
    Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 16:39
  • @DoubleAA, I can't prove it, because I can't scan a greenbean (3d) into my computer. However, this is my experience in eating greenbeans for most of my life. Furthermore, when have Pesach chumrot been logical or specifically halachic in nature? Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 16:43
  • I don't understand your comment. Your eating green beans doesn't show they can be ground into flour (or that anyone has done so), and if your argument is merely "nothing makes sense" then it doesn't answer the question.
    – Double AA
    Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 16:45

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