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Are there any evidence in Judaism that the man Jesus son of Joseph and Mary existed and if so are there dates associated with his birth and death?

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  • Near-duplicate: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/47327/472 – Monica Cellio Oct 23 '15 at 19:00
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    Are we going to have "Is there evidence of so-and-so's existence?" questions for every single person mentioned in history books? −1. – msh210 Oct 23 '15 at 19:03
  • @msh210 which history books from his time mention him? – mevaqesh Oct 23 '15 at 19:40
  • @mevaqesh, I didn't say "from his time". And I don't know the answer to your question. I also don't know why you're asking. – msh210 Oct 23 '15 at 19:48
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    @mevaqesh We could go back and forth forever on this one :). To be fair, there are people who think ALL monotheastic religion is made-up and that Moses didn't really exist. And it is an awfully large minority (if not a small majority)view given the number of pagans, atheists, agnostics, secular humanists, etc. alive today. – JJLL Oct 25 '15 at 3:50
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In Jewish texts, no, and therefore, none. While there are those who believe that the talmud mentions him, there is no real conclusive proof of that (see here for a discussion)-- the text might be speaking of other people as the facts surrounding the man mentioned distinguish him from what the gospels say about Jesus. Other, later Judaic texts deal with the idea of Jesus and the effects of others' belief in his existence, but provide no evidence as their goal is not to prove his historicity.

  • sources???????? – mevaqesh Oct 25 '15 at 1:02
  • sources for the fact that he is not discussed? That's a tall order. – rosends Oct 25 '15 at 1:10
  • hefty claims demand sizable evidence. Well, since you claimi a particular interpretation of Talmudic texts, it ought not be difficult to find commentators who agree with you. Unless of course they don't exist, in which case you would be incorrect, rather than unsourced. Hint look in R. Yechial of Paris' debate, and the Meiri. – mevaqesh Oct 25 '15 at 1:14
  • OK, I added a link If you have references and sources that claim otherwise, you should post them as an answer to what was asked. – rosends Oct 25 '15 at 1:31
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    The article you cite engages in a whole lot of apologetics. See for example counter points here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud – PopularIsn'tRight Oct 25 '15 at 3:55

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