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The kinna on Tisha b'av says there are 10 Martyrs, but only 8 are named. In the Yom Kippur version, however, all 10 are mentioned. Why are 2 missing from Tisha b'av?

  • Perhaps there is a fundamental difference between the messages of Tisha Ba'av and Yom Kippur that requires one to fully discuss all 10 Martyrs on Y"K while a more cursory overview is considered appropriate for Tb"A? Or maybe it was just different authors writing their respective piyutim and we can't really infer from one to the other... – Isaac Kotlicky Jul 27 '15 at 17:06
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    If so, the T.A. One should just say it is about martyrs, nos specifying that there are 10 – Clint Eastwood Jul 27 '15 at 17:13
  • Why can't the author explicitly reference a cultural memory without recalling all of it? You're implying that the author of a piyut "must" write in a certain way, and I'm not sure there's any basis to saying that... – Isaac Kotlicky Jul 27 '15 at 17:32

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