I cannot remember ever attending a siyum of an order of the Mishna where the person making the siyum did not learn the last mishna of the last masechta of the seder. Is there some problem with learning the masechtot out of order or the mishnayot of a masechta out of order?

Assuming there is no problem, is it the common practice to learn the last Mishna of the seder at the siyum even if the masechtot were learned out of order? Or is my experience not representative?

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    Your experience is not representative of my experience FWIW. – Double AA Jun 28 '15 at 15:25
  • This erev Pesach the shul finished Seder Moed (Mishna) with Psachim. – Scimonster Jun 28 '15 at 15:26
  • Considering that there are common circumstances where the last mishna in a masechta isn't even a MISHNA (see: Avos, Bechoros, etc.), then why couldn't you end at the second to last perek? It's... unusual to end a masechta in the middle (maybe someone else learned the second half?), but it's pretty common to pick a thematically relevant masechta to end the siyum on... – Isaac Kotlicky Jun 29 '15 at 14:18
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    @AlBerko when editing posts, please don't change the spelling/capitalization of the OP. – Daniel Jun 16 '19 at 11:57
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    @AlBerko it may be easier for you, but it's incorrect grammatically. Italics would be appropriate, but that's a stylistic choice up to the poster. – Daniel Jun 16 '19 at 16:06
  1. Many Yeshivahs indeed learn Mesechtos (e.g. Kiddushin) not in the order of the Gemmorah, as it jumps from one subject to another and gets back to the first.

  2. It is customary to repeat the last lines, even if one already learned them to show that he actually completes a whole Maseches. If one was reading the last words of the first Mishnah, that would seem very confusing.

  • Do you have a source for #2? I have witnessed and made siyumim out of order where the last lines of whatever needed to be finished were read at the siyum. – BigJohn Jun 17 '19 at 1:46

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