Can someone please remind me where the machloket is regarding wether making a knife for a brit Milah on shabbat is mutar or assur. Another thing, I know we pasken its assur however if someone was to make it using a shinui or even better asking a goy to do it would it be mutar even with the de'ah that we pasken with?


As to your first question -- it's the 19th chapter of Tractate Shabbat (starting on page 130); known as "Rabbi Eliezer d'Milah."

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