The Laws of Brachos by Rabbi Binyamin Forst says the following on page 211 note 16.

"Rumor has it that the Chafetz Chaim allegedly said, that in America, desserts are part of the meal and require no Bracha."

He says that based on the Shaar Hatzion 7 on Mishna Berura Orach Chaim 177:1:4 this rumor should be laid to rest.

Is there any further source to this rumor?

  • Just to make this story more bizarre and less believable, one of my Rebbeim told me that the way it was presented to him was that Reb Moshe Feinstein as a young man met the Chafetz Chaim and presented this argument to him and the Chafetz Chaim agreed. On the flip side though, since when can't someone retract from an earlier opinion? Besides, there are quite a few halachas tgat have come down from Rabbi Zacks and others from the Ch.Ch. which contradict what is written in the M.B. (which some have claimed was not exclusively written by the Ch.Ch.).
    – user6591
    Jun 11, 2015 at 14:52
  • @user6591: The question then remains which ruling was earlier? Jun 11, 2015 at 14:54
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    This of course is of no practical halachic significance as dessert nowadays may be a totally different animal as it was 100 years ago. The ChCh's evaluation of American dessert patterns from 100 years ago need not mach patterns today. One should always ask a Poseik who is familiar with current dessert patterns.
    – Double AA
    Jun 11, 2015 at 14:55
  • @DoubleAA: I would think that if the Chafetz Chaim said so 100 years ago it would be more so today. Jun 11, 2015 at 14:57
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    @GershonGold I have no idea as I dont know what dessert patterns were like 100 years ago in the USA or in Poland to compare to. Do you?
    – Double AA
    Jun 11, 2015 at 14:58

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Rabbi Daniel Neustadt says the following in note 3 of Weekly Halacha

Several sources report that the Chafetz Chayim eventually changed his ruling and exempted cooked fruits served as dessert from a blessing; see Orchos Rabbeinu 66 and Vezos ha-Berachah, pg. 78. [Others dispute that the Chafetz Chayim changed his ruling.] Reportedly, Harav A. Kotler ruled that no blessing is recited over cooked fruit.

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