And the Philistines seized him, and gouged out his eyes. And they brought him down to Gaza, and bound him with copper chains, and he did grind in the prison house.

    כאוַיֹּאחֲזוּהוּ פְלִשְׁתִּים וַיְנַקְּרוּ אֶת עֵינָיו וַיּוֹרִידוּ אוֹתוֹ עַזָּתָה וַיַּאַסְרוּהוּ בַּנְחֻשְׁתַּיִם וַיְהִי טוֹחֵן בְּבֵית הָאֲסוּרִים (כתיב הָאֲסיּרִים) :

I apologize if the title is incorrect

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This is indeed what Rabi Yochanan says in maseches Sota 10a.

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    So is this an opinion or is this what actually happened? Does anybody dissagree with Rabbi Yochanan? Jun 1, 2015 at 0:02
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    Ah. Welcome to the land of aggadata homilies. I will be called either a heretic or an imbecile by a large segment of Judaism, depending on whether I answer yes or no to your question.
    – user6591
    Jun 1, 2015 at 0:06
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    @user6591 Just to take away your safe option, I'll call you a coward for not taking a stance. +1! Jun 1, 2015 at 2:18
  • @yez nobody here but us chickens:) One of the kids asked by the shabbos table 'are dinosaurs real?' I weasled out by saying 'well their bones are real'. I should've just pointed behind him and said 'look! a distraction!' and taken the opportunity to run. I can take a stance, but other people suffer too if my view doesn't fit in societies mold. Off the record I'm a Hirschian Jew when it comes to these things. I'm sure you know what that means.
    – user6591
    Jun 1, 2015 at 2:29
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    @user6591 Midrash is often a means of explaining many mysteries of the past while simultaneously leaving us new ones for the future. In short, Rav Yochanan stated this. How would we know if he is right or wrong? Does he cite his source, and assuming it's from a Midrash, how do we know ITS source?
    – DanF
    Jun 1, 2015 at 2:46

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