Suppose a lady who normally Davens (prays) Mincha missed Mincha one day. Now this lady never Davens Maariv. Must she Daven Maariv to do Tashlumin or can she just Daven one Shemona Esrei for the missed Mincha?

  • Will she listen if you tell her this night to daven maariv?
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 29, 2015 at 2:11
  • Or (a third option to your two), can she do tashlumin at shacharis (her next t'fila)?
    – msh210
    Commented Apr 29, 2015 at 3:58
  • @msh210 The OP never specifies if she ever davens Shacharit
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 29, 2015 at 4:41

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Tashlumin always has to be after an ordinary obligatory prayer, so in your case in order to say the Tashlumin she would have to Daven Maariv first and then say the Tashlumin. (Halichot Shelomo Tefillah chapter 13 footnote יא‏)

While the above is I believe the more commonly held position, I note that Rabbi Dr. Nahum Rabinovitch rules (Siach Nachum OC 10) [in the context of Friday night, but seemingly applicable at other times] that if a woman is stuck and can't follow the above recommendation, she can pray just once as Tashlumin and intend that if this can't be a Tashlumin it should be a Nedava (voluntary) prayer.

  • It seems from this Mishna Brurah (107:5) that on shabbas and Yom tov that there are no nedavas:{ה} מתפלת מוסף - ר"ל אפילו דשל ר"ח וחוה"מ כיון שאומר ומוספים כהלכתם והמוספין אינן קרבין אלא משל צבור ואין היחיד יכול לנדב אותם ועיין באחרונים שכתבו דלפ"ז בתפלת מוסף וה"ה בשבת ויו"ט בכל התפילות אם נסתפק אם התפלל אותם אינו יכול לחזור ולהתפלל אותם דהרי צריך להתנות וכנ"ל בסק"ב ובזה אינו יכול להתנות ועיין לקמן בסימן קכ"ד ס"א בבה"ל:
    – sam
    Commented Nov 19, 2015 at 5:33
  • @sam Yes, I'm aware of that MB, and the responsum thus puzzled me. (I included the fact that the responsum was about Friday night in my summary here exactly in case someone here had a solution.)
    – Double AA
    Commented Nov 19, 2015 at 5:34
  • My best guess is the RNR is sure enough of his psak to not worry about Bakasha on Shabbat, but wants to avoid risking Bracha Levatala. Something like that. EDIT: see judaism.stackexchange.com/a/126898/759
    – Double AA
    Commented Nov 19, 2015 at 5:36
  • I am trying to understand how one can daven once and that is the tashlumim
    – sam
    Commented Nov 19, 2015 at 5:38
  • @sam He argues that since we rule in the Machloket whether or not the Tashlmin needs to happen right after the next Tefila or any time later in the time of the next Tefila like the latter opinion, then the only requirements are that Tashlumin be in the right time and all other current obligations are dealt with. Since this woman (allegedly) has no obligation for Maariv, but is in its time slot, she's set. It's no different than if a man had already davened Maariv 3 hours ago and now it's 11pm and he remembers that he missed Mincha. (I agree it's a Chiddush, but interesting Lomdus all the same)
    – Double AA
    Commented Nov 19, 2015 at 6:41

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