I have noticed that some people are particular to stand on Motzei Shabbat for Vihi Noam and Uva LeTzion, whereas others are particular to sit.

  • Is this really something significant?

  • Whose opinion is it that a person should stand, and which groups (typically) follow that opinion?

  • Whose opinion is it that a person should sit, and which groups (typically) follow that opinion?
  • One possibility: Those who are particular to stand are particular because it's more comfortable for them, likewise for those who are particular to sit. It may be worth asking them.
    – msh210
    Mar 24, 2015 at 18:32
  • I'll see what I can find further. My assumption for those who stand - it followed Kaddish, and another one immediately follows these paragraphs. Another possibility - some stand for "Uval Letziyon" b/c it's considered like "kedusha" (these same people also stand when said during weekday Shacharit, I believe.)
    – DanF
    Mar 24, 2015 at 19:28
  • My father's minhag is to stand for Vihi Noam and sit for V'ata Kadosh. I've noticed other people in shul doing this as well, so that seems to be another option.
    – Scimonster
    Mar 25, 2015 at 10:48

2 Answers 2


See Kaf Hachaim 295/1 who states that one should say the full paragraph of V'yehi No'am or at least the 1st verse should be said while standing.

והמעם הוא כי הכוונה עתה לקבל אור החוזר מן הבינה הנקראת נועס ה׳ מסוד תוספת שבת ולכן צריך שיהיה מעומד ועי״ש

I have no idea what he means by אור החוזר מן הבינה . It sounds like a Kabbalistic term. If someone knows what this means, feel free to edit this into my answer.

I haven't found a reason why the 2nd paragraph, Ve'Atah Kadosh is said standing (if it is at all). My own sense / opinion - it should be said sitting because the beginning verse says יושב תהלות ישראל . But then again, the beginning of Veyehi No'am" also says יושב בסתר עליון - Just my thoughts on these two.

  • See Ben Ish Chai, Vayetze 2nd year.
    – Zeev
    Mar 25, 2015 at 10:24
  • About the kdusha, probably it is similiar to Kdusha d'sidra of shcharit, 2nd note So - Sit/Kabalistic/Sfradim
    – Zeev
    Mar 25, 2015 at 10:32
  • אור חוזר is a Kabbalistic term. It literally means reflected light. Conceptually it is like the statement in Avos that a teacher learns the most from his students. Bina is one of the 10 Sefiros.
    – Yishai
    Jun 24, 2015 at 17:57
  • All of that is a reference to drawing the holiness of Shabbos into the coming week and into day to day life.
    – Yishai
    Jun 24, 2015 at 18:01

The Kitzur Shulchan Aruch in סימן צו - דיני תפלת ערבית ודיני הבדלה says:

אַחַר כָּךְ אוֹמְרִים וִיהִי נֹעַם, לְפִי שֶׁהוּא מִזְמוֹר שֶׁל בְּרָכָה, שֶׁבּוֹ בֵּרַךְ מֹשֶׁה אֶת יִשְֹרָאֵל בְּשָׁעָה שֶׁסִּיְמוּ מְלֶאכֶת הַמִּשְׁכָּן. וְיֵשׁ לְאָמְרוֹ מְעֻמָּד.‏

His source is possible the באר היטב in Shulchan Aruch סימן רצה - הבדלה שעושה שליח צבור who says:

ויהי נועם. וצריך לאומרו מעומד כתבים.‏

Note that:

  • His source is כתבים - that's how he referred to the writings of the Talmidei HaAri z"l
  • It's not a Mechaber, but the Remo.

The ArtScroll Siddur says (IIRC) that one only need stand for the first verse.

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