Esther 8:17 says that many people of the various lands מתיהדים which means, literally "Made themselves Jewish".

Does this mean that they were "valid" Jews, i.e. obligated in all the mitzvoth as other Jews such as those born Jewish or those who were already converts by other valid means (i.e. - prior to the Purim story?)

Why I believe not:

  • The term used here is מתיהדים as opposed to the term we would expect for converting which should be מתגיירים.

  • Acceptable converts must have done so of their own free will not because of fear or coercion. IN this case, the end of the verse says that they made themselves Jewish "...because the fear of the Jews fell upon them."

If either of these cases is correct, what does the term מתיהדים mean?

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    cool diyyuk. hadn't thought of that one before... Feb 26, 2015 at 16:18
  • @IsaacKotlicky - Thanks. See if you can compose a great answer ;-)
    – DanF
    Feb 26, 2015 at 16:30
  • Y'vamos 24b: רבי נחמיה אומר... ואחד גירי מרדכי ואסתר אינן גרים עד שיתגיירו... כבזמן הזה. הא איתמר עלה א"ר יצחק... הלכה כדברי האומר כולם גרים הם. Tosafos (ad loc., s.v. lo): וי"ל דמעצמן נתגיירו כדאשכחן גבי מרדכי ואסתר ורבים מעמי הארץ מתיהדים. Rashi (Avoda Zara 24a, s.v. g'rurim): מעצמן נגררין להתגייר אע"פ שאין מקבלין אותן. See also here and here.
    – Fred
    Feb 26, 2015 at 16:47
  • Also, see #4 in this article by R' Bernard Illowy.
    – Fred
    Feb 26, 2015 at 16:55
  • About the word מתגיירים, that root usually refers (in Tanach) to moving to a different location. I don't think it could be used to mean just converting to Judaism.
    – Ypnypn
    Feb 26, 2015 at 16:55

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According to Rabbi Moshe Isserles (the REMA) in the Mechir Yayin al Megillat Esther, they would be proper converts because:

Fear of the Jews had fallen upon them (8:17)

Or, "that which the Jews feared fell upon them "--the awe of Heaven experienced by the Jews was of such intensity that it infused even their countrymen, inspiring them to convert.

Those who converted for this reason would be considered proper converts in every respect.


The Rambam writes in Hilchot Issurei Biah 13:15:

לְפִיכָךְ לֹא קִבְּלוּ בֵּית דִּין גֵּרִים כָּל יְמֵי דָּוִד וּשְׁלֹמֹה. בִּימֵי דָּוִד שֶׁמָּא מִן הַפַּחַד חָזְרוּ. וּבִימֵי שְׁלֹמֹה שֶׁמָּא בִּשְׁבִיל הַמַּלְכוּת וְהַטּוֹבָה וְהַגְּדֻלָּה שֶׁהָיוּ בָּהּ יִשְׂרָאֵל חָזְרוּ. שֶׁכָּל הַחוֹזֵר מִן הָעַכּוּ''ם בִּשְׁבִיל דָּבָר מֵהַבְלֵי הָעוֹלָם אֵינוֹ מִגֵּרֵי הַצֶּדֶק. וְאַף עַל פִּי כֵן הָיוּ גֵּרִים הַרְבֵּה מִתְגַּיְּרִים בִּימֵי דָּוִד וּשְׁלֹמֹה בִּפְנֵי הֶדְיוֹטוֹת. וְהָיוּ בֵּית דִּין הַגָּדוֹל חוֹשְׁשִׁין לָהֶם לֹא דּוֹחִין אוֹתָן אַחַר שֶׁטָּבְלוּ מִכָּל מָקוֹם וְלֹא מְקָרְבִין אוֹתָן עַד שֶׁתֵּרָאֶה אַחֲרִיתָם:

For this reason, the court did not accept converts throughout the reign of David and Solomon. In David's time, [they feared] that they sought to convert because of fear and in Solomon's time, [they feared] that they were motivated by the sovereignty, prosperity, and eminence which Israel enjoyed. [They refrained from accepting such converts, because] a gentile who seeks to convert because of the vanities of this [material] world is not a righteous convert.

Our verse, Esther 8:17, states:

וּבְכָל־מְדִינָ֨ה וּמְדִינָ֜ה וּבְכָל־עִ֣יר וָעִ֗יר מְקוֹם֙ אֲשֶׁ֨ר דְּבַר־הַמֶּ֤לֶךְ וְדָתוֹ֙ מַגִּ֔יעַ שִׂמְחָ֤ה וְשָׂשׂוֹן֙ לַיְּהוּדִ֔ים מִשְׁתֶּ֖ה וְי֣וֹם ט֑וֹב וְרַבִּ֞ים מֵֽעַמֵּ֤י הָאָ֙רֶץ֙ מִֽתְיַהֲדִ֔ים כִּֽי־נָפַ֥ל פַּֽחַד־הַיְּהוּדִ֖ים עֲלֵיהֶֽם׃

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king’s commandment and his decree came, the Jews had gladness and joy, a feast and a good day. And many from among the peoples of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews was fallen upon them.

Thus, it seems unlikely that the מתיהדים actually converted. Although the Rambam does explain that a roundabout route of conversion was open, it was designed to weed out those who converted from external concerns-- like these people.

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