In the Mishna (Sanhedrin 8:2), one of the circumstances under which a child who consumed a certain amount of meat and wine does not become a "stubborn and rebellious child" (בן סורר ומורה) is when the food that he consumed is either tevel (food from which terumot have not been taken), maaser rishon from which terumat hamaaser has not been taken, unredeemed maaser sheni (outside Jerusalem) or unredeemed heqdesh. Tosafot Yom Tov comments that this section doesn't belong here, since one only becomes a "stubborn and rebellious child" if one consumes, specifically, meat and wine.

I don't understand this statement. Wine could potentially be any one of those items in the above list, while meat could potentially be unredeemed heqdesh. What is the Tosafot Yom Tov's problem with this passage?

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The Tosafos Yom Tov understands the words "achal...maaser sheni v'hekdesh" literally to refer to eating as opposed to drinking. The meat cannot be maaser sheni. (See Tiferes Yisrael).

  • As I understand the phrase (which appears a dozen-or-so times in Seder Zeraim), "מעשר שני והקדש שלא נפדו" means maaser sheni that has not been redeemed or heqdesh that has not been redeemed - and not something that is both maaser sheni and heqdesh at the same time. Are you suggesting otherwise?
    – Shimon bM
    Commented Feb 5, 2015 at 0:28
  • @ShimonbM No. I am not suggesting otherwise. I am suggesting (as per Artscroll's Yad Avraham commentary) that the two possible non-ben-sorer-umore foods refer literally to food; i.e. meat just as the other preceding usages of "achal" refer to literal eating and not drinking, such as treifos, shkatzim, and r'massim.
    – mevaqesh
    Commented Feb 5, 2015 at 2:14

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