As mentioned in another question, we have a few fast days, mostly connected to the destruction of the Beis Hamikdash. Yet, which one?

  1. Tzom Gedalya, 10th of Teves are exclusively 1st Beis Hamikdash related
  2. 17th of Tammuz, according to the Bavli Taanis 28b was exclusively 2nd Beis Hamikdash (and we don't fast on the 9th which was when the walls of Jerusalem were broken)
  3. Tisha Be'Av - Both.

Why can't we be consistent? Either fast on the 9th, or replace Tzom Gedalya and 10th of Teves with parallel 2nd Beis Hamikdash events?

  • I don't understand. Why not mourn both? – msh210 Dec 28 '14 at 4:47
  • @msh210 but we don't do that either. We don't fast on the 9th – Shmuel Brin Dec 28 '14 at 4:47
  • @msh210 See Aruch Hashulchan 549:4. However, it still doesn't answer why we don't fast on the day when the Romans besieged Jerusalem. – Shmuel Brin Dec 28 '14 at 5:01
  • Your question is why we mourn both, not one. My comment asked why we should mourn one, not both. Mourning both seems reasonable to me. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove from the AHS: afaict he says we mourn both ("ואף על גב דבבית ראשון הובקעה ירושלים בתשעה בתמוז... מכל מקום לא תקנו בו התענית רק בשבעה עשר שבשנייה בו הובקעה העיר ואצלינו חמיר לן חורבן בית שני"), but I never doubted that, and your questions is assuming as a premise that we mourn both. Am I misunderstanding your question? – msh210 Dec 28 '14 at 5:07
  • @msh210 My question is that it seems that we're partly mourning over one and partly mourning over the other. We're not being consistent. If we'd mourn over both (even minus the 9th of Tammuz) it would be consistent. – Shmuel Brin Dec 28 '14 at 5:10

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