I am going getting a GET from my wife and the Rabbi asked for my father's Hebrew name. I told him it was כלאוונא, the same as my great-grandfather. The rabbi said he had never heard of the name. After some research, we found it mentioned in the Talmud without any explanation we could understand. Can you shed any light on this? Thanks.
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2Mark Cantor, welcome to Mi Yodeya! Where did you see this name in the Talmud? Please edit the source into your question; that would make it a great deal easier for people to investigate it.– Isaac Moses ♦Nov 25, 2014 at 19:42
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1How do you pronounce that name? Shouldn't you give the GET to your wife, not you getting a GET from her?– Reb Chaim HaQotonNov 25, 2014 at 20:07
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5This question has two close votes for being "off-topic, Hebrew." I don't agree -- it asks for the meaning of a specific Jewish name in the context of Judaism.– MTLNov 25, 2014 at 20:24
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2Please edit your sources, including as much bibliographical information as you can, into your question.– Isaac Moses ♦Nov 25, 2014 at 20:26
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3Explanatory note to supplement @IsaacMoses' -- it's a good idea to edit the gemaras where the name appears as well as its pronunciation into the question, because [1] those are important pieces of information [2] comments are less visible (and they don't last forever), questions do.– MTLNov 25, 2014 at 20:28
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This appears in the Talmud in Nazir 7a. It is a combination of two word, כל meaning all or each and אוונא which means a region or section of land. It appears in a very technical discussion about taking a Nazarite vow which was given a term equivalent to a distance to another location. The term אוונא refers to a standard for measuring land.
From the discussions in the sefarim you link to (which are about names for a Get) it is not related to that discussion, rather it is a name associated with the Hebrew names of Lapidus or Saadia.
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It's not about the GET, we have wanted to know more about this Jewish name for some time. He died before his 9 children had children, so they named the first male of each of his children's children with the name כלאוונא Nov 25, 2014 at 20:39
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@MarkCantor, My only point was that it is in the context of a Get that such names get attention in Jewish books.– YishaiNov 25, 2014 at 20:47
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@Sarge, I couldn't really find much about that, but that part of the question really goes off-topic, IMO. Jewishly, it is the foreign language name that substitutes for one of those two Hebrew names. Why people connected to either of those names, I don't know.– YishaiNov 25, 2014 at 20:49
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Although it is not a common name, even in the Talmud, it is mentioned in Oholei Shem under כלאוונא where he says look at חלוונא. Looking further in Oholei Shem I can not find חלוונא. However in Kuntras Hasheimos Hachadash - note 13 & 14 he mentions a connection to Lapidus and Saadya.
The name does exist as you can see from this Lzecher Nishmas.
answered Nov 25, 2014 at 21:04
The Aruch Hashulchan In Even Haezer 129 which discusses the names and spellings has this name by the letter ח and he goes through the spelling,and the name itself.
