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My paraphrased summary of Bereishit 27:30-39:

Eisav comes in to get his blessing. Yitzchok tells him that he already gave the blessing away. Eisav says "bless me too!" Yitzchok says "Sorry, I'm all out." Eisav cries. Yitzchok suddenly realizes he has one more blessing in the back room, and gives it to Eisav.

If Yitzchok didn't have a blessing for Eisav upon his initial request, what changed during the conversation?

  • If you read the posukim more carefully, you will see that Yitchok never said that he has no more blessings. His first response was that he had given the blessing that Eisav was supposed to get to Ya’akov, and the second response was vague and nebulous. – user4523 Nov 25 '14 at 1:07
  • @GeminiMan He never says it explicitly, but the implications of the rhetorical question ending posuk 37 are pretty clear. – Y     e     z Nov 25 '14 at 3:33
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The Ohr HaChaim explains that Yitzchok realized that Eisav would now hate and curse Ya’akov, and because he had said to Ya’akov “those that curse you shall be cursed” he did not wish to bless Eisav since this would contradict this, and therefore he tried to avoid giving Eisav a blessing.

He continues that the reason why Yitzchak relented and gave him a blessing is alluded to in the beginning of posuk 39 which says “Yitzchak, his father, answered him” - because he was his father he had mercy and gave in to crying of his son.

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My friend explained that the blessings that Yitzchak originally intended for Eisav were brachos for materialism in order to support Yaakov's learning, similar to Yissachar and Zevulun, in a way. However, Rivkah didn't think that this would work out so well, because she saw that whatever materialism that Eisav had at the time, was used entirely to please Eisav, and not to further the goals of spiritualism (רוחניות) in any way. So Yaakov got the brachos of "materialism in order to support spiritualism," which manifested most in Yissachar/Zevulun.

When Eisav repeatedly complained of being left out of the brachos, Yitzchak realized that he didn't even want material wealth in order to support Yaakov's learning -- he wanted wealth for himself. Once he realized what Eisav really wanted, Yitzchak was able to grant that blessing to Eisav.

( He did quote sources for this, but I forget them. If I remember any, I'll add them to this answer. )

  • Corrected source and idea from discussions with friends, though I still haven't consulted the person I heard this from originally for his sources. – Shokhet Nov 25 '14 at 1:05
  • I actually disagree, Yitzchak still hoped that Esav would do "T'shuva" and his descendents can do so at any time. The section of the blessing "your brother you shall serve" means exactly that he will be blessed if he uses his wealth to support Israel's learning. – CashCow Nov 25 '14 at 15:53
  • @CashCow You raise a good point. I'll ask my friend where he got this from so I can see exactly what was meant by this. – Shokhet Nov 25 '14 at 17:01
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Chanukas Hatorah gives the following answer in explanation as to why Rashi says וזהו איטליאה של יון. Gemara Shabbos 56b says that when King Solomon married the daughter of Paaroh the angel Gavriel came down from heaven and placed a rod in the sea upon which eventually was built the big city of Rome, which is Italia Shel Yavan.

בשעה שנשא שלמה את בת פרעה ירד גבריאל ונעץ קנה בים ועלה בו שירטון ועליו נבנה כרך גדול של רומי וזהו איטליאה של יון

He went on to explain that since this did not exist yet at the time of the Bracha to Yaakov, Yitzchok was able to give this to Eisav.

Thanks to http://daf-yomi.com/DYItemDetails.aspx?itemId=19609 for help with this answer.

  • Does this answer the question? I was asking why he had a blessing to give the second time Eisav asked, after crying, but not the first time he asked. Could you add in how this ties into that? – Y     e     z Nov 24 '14 at 21:18
  • The answer is that at first Yitzchak did not think of this, but then when Eisav cried he thought of this which was not available until later. – Gershon Gold Nov 24 '14 at 21:22
  • Is that your own idea or is somehow seen through this answer? – Y     e     z Nov 24 '14 at 21:23
  • I saw this answer originally in a Likut Sefer in Shul. When I put it on I found the Chanukas Hatorah which seemed to be saying this. I agree it is not clear and I will put in the original source when I find it. – Gershon Gold Nov 24 '14 at 21:24
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Some of these interpretations are mine:

The blessings of course are prophecies. They do not actually come from Yitzchak's own words but from G-d.

In order to "find" a blessing for Eisav after the original one had been "taken" by Yaakov, Yitzchak had to see Ruach Hakodesh.

The G'mora identifies the prophets and all the Patriarchs, including Yitzchak, are included among them. Where else do we find Yitzchak pronounce any prophecies? So clearly they must be here.

Yitzchak tells Eisav that Yaakov was made master over him then asks him "what can I give to you". The response is here:

  1. And Esau said to his father, "Have you [but] one blessing, my father? Bless me too, my father." And Esau raised his voice and wept. לח. וַיֹּאמֶר עֵשָׂו אֶל אָבִיו הַבֲרָכָה אַחַת הִוא לְךָ אָבִי בָּרֲכֵנִי גַם אָנִי אָבִי וַיִּשָּׂא עֵשָׂו קֹלוֹ וַיֵּבְךְּ

Rashi comments on the first part (have you but one blessing) but not on the weep.

Have you [but] one blessing: The“hey” [in הַבִרָכָה] indicates an interrogative expression, as in (Num. 13:19):“are they in open cities (הַבְּמַחֲנַיִם) ?” ;“is it fat (הַשְּׁמֵנָה) ?” ; (II Sam. 3:33):“[Should Abner die] like the death of (הַכְּמוֹת) a wicked man?”

הברכה אחת: ה"א זו משמשת לשון תמיה, כמו (במדבר יג יט) הבמחנים, (במדבר יג כ) השמנה היא, (ש"ב ג לג) הכמות נבל: Earlier he cried a "bitter cry" and that didn't yield any real sympathy, but what is this weep?

Perhaps that was, for one moment, a form of Teshuvah which warranted him being given the blessing. (I'll have to find my Rabbinic commentary sources about the great cry). Unfortunately, as we will soon see, it didn't last. Not for him personally, anyway.

Yitzchak might have answered to Eisav the same way that Yaakov does to Rachel when she asks for children. Something in the nature of "Blessings come from G-d". But Yitzchak knew Eisav and we can probably guess why he didn't bother saying it.

In any case, G-d is now about to give over the words for the role He has in mind for Eisav. And his descendents. So even if Eisav is "wicked" and will not listen, he will have some righteous descendents (he did). And of course, like everybody else, he had free-will.

  1. And his father Isaac answered and said to him, "Behold, your dwelling place shall be the fat places of the earth and of the dew of the heaven from above. לט. וַיַּעַן יִצְחָק אָבִיו וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו הִנֵּה מִשְׁמַנֵּי הָאָרֶץ יִהְיֶה מוֹשָׁבֶךָ וּמִטַּל הַשָּׁמַיִם מֵעָל:
  2. And you shall live by your sword, and you shall serve your brother, and it will be, when you grieve, that you will break his yoke off your neck." מ. וְעַל חַרְבְּךָ תִחְיֶה וְאֶת אָחִיךָ תַּעֲבֹד וְהָיָה כַּאֲשֶׁר תָּרִיד וּפָרַקְתָּ עֻלּוֹ מֵעַל צַוָּארֶךָ:
    (Bereishit 27:39)

From the first verse and half of the second, the role of supporting his brother seems to be clearly the role there. He will fight the battles for him (living by the sword) and will have wealth and power, but should use it to support (serve) his brother Yaakov.

Rashi and others interpret the second part of v40 (when you grieve..) to mean that it applies only when Israel is righteous.

and it will be, when you grieve: [תָּרִיד] is an expression of pain, as in (Ps. 55:3):“I will lament (אָרִיד) in my speech” ; i.e., when the Israelites will transgress the Torah, and you will have cause to grieve about the blessings that he took, “you will break his yoke,” etc. [From Targum Onkelos]

והיה כאשר תריד: לשון צער, כמו (תהלים נה ג) אריד בשיחי, כלומר כשיעברו ישראל את התורה, ויהיה לך פתחון פה להצטער על הברכות שנטל, ופרקת עלו וגו

As you say, Eisav didn't want this role. He wanted the power for himself. As is clear from the next verse...

  1. And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing that his father had blessed him, and Esau said to himself, "Let the days of mourning for my father draw near, I will then kill my brother Jacob. " מא. וַיִּשְׂטֹם עֵשָׂו אֶת יַעֲקֹב עַל הַבְּרָכָה אֲשֶׁר בֵּרֲכוֹ אָבִיו וַיֹּאמֶר עֵשָׂו בְּלִבּוֹ יִקְרְבוּ יְמֵי אֵבֶל אָבִי וְאַהַרְגָה אֶת יַעֲקֹב אָחִי:

Given the curses given to the descendents of some people who did "evil" (male descendents of Moav and Ammon, for example) Eisav didn't do too badly.

  • His descendents can convert and, from the 3rd generation, marry into the nation. So righteous individual descendents can get the "convenant" after all. The prophet Ovadiah, was one such individual.

  • Israel are told not to "harass" Edom.

Why? Possibly Yitzchak's prayers? (G'morah Megillah states that Yitzchak prayed for the merit of Eisav, although his request was rejected, but we don't know when this happened). Similar to the way Avraham requested that Ishmael would be elevated before Hashem.

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    Thanks for answering. I don't see how this addressed my question, which was what changed between the first and second time that Eisav asked. Could you please edit to clarify that point for me? – Y     e     z Nov 25 '14 at 18:33
  • As said in my first few lines. The blessings were prophecies given by G-d. When Yitzchak had given the first one away he presumably had to get "Ruach Hakodesh" to find one to give to Eisav. – CashCow Nov 26 '14 at 11:48

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