Many leaders and congregants in my shul bang with their hands on the shulchan and on their siddurs and stomp their feet in what is supposed to be the rhythm of the prayer's melody. The noise is overwhelming and disturbs my concentration and is damaging my hearing. What halachic citations should I research in order to present a reasonable case to have the banging and stomping toned down to a reasonable level?

For the record, I have tried the "nice" approach and it didn't work. I view this issue as a public health issue because of the damage the sound levels can, and probably will, do to the hearing of others; even those making the noise. Additionally, I am not the only one who has tried to get this issue corrected and failed. As for finding another Shul, I resist that action for the present because, other than this one issue, I like the members of my community. They are basically very good people. But in the end I will do what I must do to protect my health and well being and if that means changing Shuls, so be it.

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    Hm. Change Shuls? Oct 1, 2014 at 16:45
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    Is it Shabbat ?
    – Double AA
    Oct 1, 2014 at 16:46
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    Discovering and promoting the Halachic sources that apply to noisemaking as part of davening is certainly worthwhile, regardless of the particular instigating case. Note, however, that in your case, appealing to people's sensitivity to your needs as a person may be more effective than presenting a Halachic case that what they're doing is forbidden or frowned upon.
    – Isaac Moses
    Oct 1, 2014 at 16:57
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    LMB what will you do if your research ends up proving that it is allowed? What if it is actually a mitzvah? Don't you think it's wrong to use the Torah for your own personal needs? Don't use the Torah as a pick to dig with. You have a personal problem with them, not a religious one.
    – user6591
    Oct 2, 2014 at 0:35

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The Rambam writes in Hilchot Tfila 5:9:

ולא ישמיע קולו אלא אם כן היה חולה או שאינו יכול לכוין את לבו עד שישמיע קולו הרי זה מותר ובלבד שלא יהא בציבור כדי שלא תטרף דעתן

And also the Shulchan aruch (או''ח ס' קא ס''ק ב) says that:

ואם אינו יכול לכוין בלחש מותר להגביה קולו והני מילי בינו לבין עצמו אבל בצבור אסור דאתי למטרד צבורא.

So.. There you go!

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    These sources address referring to Shmona Esrei. It's the OP asking about that? Seems like he's asking about parts that are sung with a melody May 20, 2015 at 18:39

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