Are these two activities considered a violation of "borer" on Shabbat?

  • Playing cards where you must separate the cards into the 4 suits (hearts, spades, diamonds, clubs)
  • Sorting flatware into separate piles of knives, forks and spoons
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    Sounds like two separate questions -- why should these two scenarios be put together? – MTL Sep 4 '14 at 2:44
  • Are you keeping the rules of "ביד מיד ואוכל מתוך פוסלת"? – MTL Sep 4 '14 at 2:44

Sh'miras Shabas K'hilchasah 3:78:

It is forbidden to classify mixed flatware in order to organize each type into the compartment designated for it. Likewise, it's forbidden to take all the pieces of one type and dry them and then put them in their compartment. But it's permissible to put each piece of flatware into its compartment immediately after drying, where he took whatever piece came to hand and dried it alone.

In the footnotes, he clarifies that in the second case, since his intention when taking all the forks is to separate them not for immediate use, it's prohibited; if, however, it's much easier for him to dry them that way then its permissible.

And 16:34:

One must be careful not to separate, at the end of a game, the various items or cards so as to order them by type, color, or the like, as it's borer. But it's permissible to separate them and order them so as to play with them immediately.

Translations are my own, and loose.

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