In my shul there is someone who shushes people that talk. He believes that he is obligated to do this. I understand that there is a prohibition against embarrassing people publicly and that sometimes you are obligated to protest publicly on a violation.

My question is (please give sources so that he will respect the answer more): In this shul people usually talk (there is no minhag not to talk) and the people that are talking are not davining. When can one attempt to quieten the talkers and when is it forbidden?

  1. There is no minyan (<10) and the chazan started to davin (befor yishtabach)
  2. There is a minyan but the minyan is holding before baruch sheamar
  3. The minyan is holding before shma
  4. The minyan is holding in shma
  5. The minyan is holding in shmona esrai
  6. The minyan is holding in chazoras hashatz
  7. The minyan is holding before krias hatorah
  8. The minyan is holding during krias hatorah
  9. Between aliyos
  10. After krias hatorah

thank you very much

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    Tangential to your question is who is the "shusher"? Is he the rav or gabbai? Technically, they are the ones in charge of making the request to be quiet, not the average davener in the shul. It's tricky to ask people to be quiet. Other than the embarassment issue, some feel that b/c they send the most money to the shul it gives them the right to talk when they want and as much as they want during davening time. It's a horrible attitude, but, if they leave the shul permanently, it can really financially damage the shul, esp. if you can't find "normal" replacements for them.
    – DanF
    Commented Aug 20, 2014 at 2:55
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    <strike>obligated</strike> prohibited during the rabbi's drasha when directed at the rabbi. Commented Nov 19, 2014 at 20:08

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Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 124:7 limits the obligation to shush to chazoras hashatz.

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