Someone told me that when people are talking during davening it causes the Divine Presence to leave or depart from a shul. Is there a halachic source for this?

  • Who and what were they talking about? Sounds more like they were polemicizing.
    – Double AA
    Aug 10, 2014 at 22:24
  • They were talking during tefillah. Aug 10, 2014 at 23:36
  • They told you this during tefillah and caused the Shekhina to leave, or they told you during tefillah that another talker had already caused the Shekhina to leave, or they told you after tefillah that a talker had caused the Shekhina to leave earlier than it should have?
    – Mike
    Aug 11, 2014 at 7:12
  • I jest, but maintaining kavannah and keeping people in the spirit of davaning is a tricky matter, and some old guys yapping it up does make it feel like the Shekhina has departed. Does it actually? How could any of us humans know for sure?
    – Mike
    Aug 11, 2014 at 7:18

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I saw at The Yeshiva World a post that included the words:

One who speaks during Chazoras Hashatz causes the Shechinah to leave Klal Yisroel, and it is as if he has sinned with Avodah Zorah. Drush Chasam Sofer vol2pg309b

but I didn't see it here on a quick check.

  • Is there anything mentioned that if one speaks during Chazoras Hashatz in his shul the Shechinah leaves from that shul? Aug 11, 2014 at 15:15
  • @ChiddusheiTorah The quote above is all I found. Aug 11, 2014 at 16:31

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