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Years ago, my parents could easily purchase these meat & poultry parts that I rarely see now:

  • chicken feet
  • cow / calf lungs
  • goose & goose liver

When I was in Israel, these animals or parts seemed easily obtainable, but I can't find it in the U.S.:

  • goat meat
  • "Rocky Mountain Oysters" (a.k.a. - bull "nuts")

Venison is kosher, and a few restaurants serve it, but I've never seen it in butcher stores.

Why are these, esp. the top few items that WERE once obtainable, difficult to find?

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    Low demand. [15] – Double AA Jul 30 '14 at 13:14
  • @DoubleAA - possibly, but not a correlation. Many people may not know about it b/c it hasn't been sold in a while. – DanF Jul 30 '14 at 13:20
  • I have seen chicken feet in Pomegranate in Brooklyn. – Shokhet Sep 3 '14 at 19:57
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because according to the top voted answer on meta: meta.judaism.stackexchange.com/a/3747/8775 an answer is on topic "But in general, I think a question is in scope here if it passes the tests, "Does it matter whether this is Jewish?" and "Would this get [roughly] the same answer on another SE site as here?" The question as phrased by the OP dos not seem to satisfy this criterion. – mevaqesh Jul 29 '16 at 9:39
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because The question is not if there is an Halachic problem which lead to difficulty to find these products, but a question about a commercial phenomenon. – kouty Jul 29 '16 at 12:12
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There were certain intestines that were taken off the market by the F.D.A. along with animal feet. After reappearing on the market when regulations were laxed, the new generation simply had no interest. Especially if they are expensive and no longer on the taste pallet of your average person. As far as Rocky Mountain Oysters, all parts from the hind quarters are not eaten by popular Ashkenazi tradition of not 'treibering', removal of forbidden veins and fats, nikur in halachic talk. Some Sfardim in Israel still continue their tradition and remove what is assur and enjoy the rest.

EDIT. Turns out testicles do in fact require a certain type of nikur, to remove blood vessels. See Shulchan Aruch Yoreh Deah siman 65 siff 4.

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    Mountain Fruit sells chicken feet. – user6591 Jul 30 '14 at 13:52
  • Editing any source for your information would improve your answer. – msh210 Jul 30 '14 at 17:18
  • But testicles don't require Nikkur. (Not entirely true, but compared to, say, a T-bone steak, it is quite simple.) – Double AA Jul 30 '14 at 17:21
  • @ msh sorry this is all mipi hashmua. @Aa True. Neither do tails. But the entire hind is unused by Ashkenazim. – user6591 Jul 30 '14 at 19:56
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    @DoubleAA The way it was explained to me by someone from the Star K is that in order to be able to avoid the extra expense of treibering, the entire rear half of the animal is cut off and shipped to the nonkosher side. It would not pay to cut some parts for specialty items. – sabbahillel Jul 30 '14 at 20:44
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The sale of lungs is illegal in the U.S.

the rest of your items there is no market (so it is very expensive)in the US for them (goat meat is starting to get popular again)

if you will search you will be able to special order these items

PS @user6591's answer the treibering of the testicles is because of blood (and not becouse of fats), Ashkenazim have a tradition on how it is done on the testicles even in America

  • True. My point wasn't to say why its impossible, just why its not worth the time and energy. – user6591 Sep 3 '14 at 14:02
  • Ashkenazim have traditions about the fat parts too. It's just not worth it economically. – Double AA Sep 3 '14 at 14:13
  • In America the tradition is NOT to treiber (for sale, I heard or an allowance for personal use) the meat of the carcass from in the front the navel and the 13th rib (including) until in the back the 3rd vertebra of the tail (including) and the toes (not including) – hazoriz Sep 3 '14 at 14:20
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    @shmuel That is generally current practice. It's definitely not a tradition of binding import. What does that have to do with Ashkenazim? The OU supervises Nikkur on deer even today! – Double AA Sep 3 '14 at 14:21
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    @shmuel What you heard is a common misconception ou.org/torah/machshava/tzarich-iyun/… "the exception of birds" ??? Birds have nothing to treiber. – Double AA Sep 3 '14 at 14:29

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