I know that one is not allowed to smear a paste on Shabbat. (Forgot the name of the "melacha:).

I notice that this is what happens to techina as I prepare it (plain unflavored tehina like Joyva from the can, that is):

The tehina from the can starts as a thick paste, When I add a bit of water, it loosens up; add a bit more water and continue stirring, it becomes pasty again. I can't explain why it does that, but that's what happens.

Context of my question is that after adding the first bit of water, it is no longer a paste, so I assume I am not smearing. Yet, it eventually does become a paste, again.

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    Isn't this a violation of טוחן? :)
    – Double AA
    Jun 13, 2014 at 16:46
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    you funny man ;-)
    – DanF
    Jun 13, 2014 at 17:42

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according to rav avraham yosef, it is permitted to make techina from techina paste on shabbat. He states that the prohibition of Lisha (kneading) which making techina most resembles, is only when you take something that is not edible as is, and by adding another ingredient create an edible mixture. Therefore if you take mayonaise or ketchup and add to mashed potatoes, or to techina, since they are edible to begin there is no problem.

Others are of the opinion that there are issues with making techina on shabbos.

I know many people mix in a different way then regular when mixing techina (ie. if they normally stir clockwise, they will stir zig zag)

The gemara שבת קמ,א "חרדל שלשוֹ מערב שבת, למחר ממחו בין ביד בין בכלי ונותן לתוכו דבש, ולא יטרוף אלא מערב" Many understand that there is no Lisha (kneading) after it has been performed prior, and have the custom to mix the techina paste with a little water before shabbos and mix, allowing them to add whatever on shabbos. The pri megadim understands that there is no lisha after lisha, and that is the case even when the originall lisha was done with the objects own juices, this is the case with techina paste, that it already underwent lisha before shabbos in the factory.

Additionally there is the idea that if by adding water/lemon juice etc, it becomes more liquidy (belila raka) then that is not called lisha

  • Thanks for the thorugh as well as understandable answer. Very infomrative. No need, but if you can provide a link, I appreciate it.
    – DanF
    Jun 16, 2014 at 18:57
  • "this is the case with techina paste, that it already underwent lisha before shabbos in the factory." I may not be understanding the term lisha regarding tahini. I gather that it means "kneading" which may also mean turning something into a paste. I am referring to plain tahini which is nothing more than ground sesame seeds. If anything, it seems that nothing is "kneaded" in the factory. As a matter of fact, the oil separates from the solid, and it has to be mixed prior to your adding water and spices to it.
    – DanF
    Nov 19, 2019 at 15:32

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