I have noticed many Haredi Rabbonim who do not wear ties through out the year (Shabbos, Yom Tov, Simchas) even though they aren't chasidish.

Does anyone know the reason?

I was thinking along the lines due to the historical association with of ties.

"There is a long history of neckwear worn by soldiers (Roman), whether as part of a uniform or as a symbol of belonging to a particular group. Some form of neckwear other than the outdoor scarf can be traced intermittently through many centuries." (Wikipedia)

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    Is there a specific reason why you would expect them TO wear neckties?
    – rosends
    May 12, 2014 at 16:10
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    Halachicly: No.......Social Conformity: Yes
    – Yishaq
    May 12, 2014 at 16:27
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    This is basically answered by this answer: judaism.stackexchange.com/a/11784/440
    – Yishai
    May 12, 2014 at 17:27
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    @Yishaq Conformity with whom? The question intimates that there is something about being a Rabbi which demands a tie (the question doesn't ask about Chareidim in general) and which separates Chareidim from other groups in terms of tie wearing. So with whom must Chareidim conform?
    – rosends
    May 12, 2014 at 17:30
  • @danno the question intimates that there are many Rabbonim who wear ties. That's it. Don't go so crazy on diyukim here.
    – Yishaq
    May 12, 2014 at 19:16

2 Answers 2


A necktie is a vestige of Western culture and is not a historically Jewish garment that was worn centuries ago except among Jewish communities influenced by their non-Jewish environment. For example, Jews of German ancestry are often referred to by others as "Yekkes" because of their shorter jackets than those worn by Polish and Lithuanian Jews.

Haredi rabbis likely have little interest in wearing clothing that connote an affection and association with popular Western culture and are more inclined to wear clothing associated with rabbinical authorities including frocks and possibly Homburgs (i.e. "up hats")

(Although all clothing is influenced by the environment in which one lives, and frocks and Homburg were worn by non-Jews at some point in the past, nevertheless these garments are not associated with non-Jewish clothing anymore.)

See this similar question and answers.

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    The only heter to wear Homburgs is that they aren't worn by non-Jews anymore? Are you implying Jews only started wearing them after the non-Jews stopped??
    – Double AA
    May 12, 2014 at 17:35
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    @DoubleAA No only that they are not associated (by the groups that wears them) with nonJews anymore, as I wrote.
    – Yoni
    May 12, 2014 at 22:01
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    Are you implying Jews only started wearing them after they stopped being associated with non-Jews?????
    – Double AA
    May 12, 2014 at 22:04
  • @DoubleAA the question has nothing to do with with whether it's mutar to wear a homburg. It's a sociological question.. Why some people don't wear certain clothing like neckties. I'm not either addressing historical dressing habits. The question is about current dressing habits. I think it'd true that today chareidi rabbis would not wear clothing that they currently associate with Western society. You disagree with that a assertion?
    – Yoni
    May 12, 2014 at 23:28
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    I guess not, as long as you clarify that such a position is not a traditional Jewish one.
    – Double AA
    May 12, 2014 at 23:29

A possible rationale was provided by R. Aaron Rakeffet in a lecture:

So I have to tell you Aryeh that Aaron Rakeffet danced for joy when he found out that it's the third topic on which I'm in total agreement with the Eidah Chareidit. Number one: they don't wear ties. I agree with them wholeheartedly. Tie is the only article of clothing you wear to be a ba'al ga'aveh. It serves no purpose. At least a belt holds up your pants. What does a tie do? It chokes you.

(My transcription)

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