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I read on Machon Moreshes Ashkenaz's forums Wedding Minhagim that it is the German custom not to wear a kittel or sargenes under the chuppah. I know that it is worn on Rosh Hashannah and Yom Kippur, as well as by the shliach tzibbur on Hoshanna Rabbah; some also wear it at other times, but those three are the only ones specified by MMA, which does not say what the first occasion for wear is. Does anyone know when it is first worn?

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  • By using "first" you seem to be assuming it is worn altogether. Why do you think so? And I'd think that knowledge would also tell you when it's first worn (e.g., if you know it's worn because it's worn on Yom Kipur by married men, then presumably it's first worn at the first Yom Kipur of a man's marriage), no? I feel like this question is missing something, like it leaves out some knowledge that you have that can help get your question answered. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding it.
    – msh210 ♦
    Mar 24, 2014 at 5:01

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Based on my knowledge - having grown up in the Yekkish Kehilla of Johannesburg and Strasbourg:

Yekkes do not wear a Kittel/Sargenes during their first year of marriage.

Some Yekkes do not wear a Kittel/Sargenes on Rosh Hashono at all, others wear it during the day-time services.

On Yom Kippour all Yekkes seem to wear their Kittel/Sargenes ; after their first year of marriage.

As a side point, in a typical Yekkish Kehilla, all males are expected to wear a white Käppchen - or a least a white Yarmulke - during the Rosh Hashono day services and the entire Yom Kippour services. (Most men will also wear a white tie.)

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  • do you know where to get käppchnen on the web? I know of the custom, but there is no Jekkisch schul near me.
    – Noach MiFrankfurt
    Mar 24, 2014 at 14:15
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    @NoachmiFrankfurt, in all shuls I've been to, they seem to have been handmade. Nothing obvious pops up on a Google search.
    – Danny Schoemann
    Mar 25, 2014 at 10:22
  • A grandson of R' Breuer's told me that when his father (the rav's son-in-law) got married, he asked R' Breuer what to do, since he was already serving as a toke'a. R' Breuer told him that he had to ask his wife permission and if she refused, that he would not be able to blow that year. I don't recall what the grandson told me the answer was.
    – Noach MiFrankfurt
    Aug 31 at 21:35

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