Does anyone know the German custom for the letter pey in Sta"m sofer? I know that the shape in Litvisch Bet Yosef is influenced by the Mekubalim of Tzfat (The Ari in particular) who said that the letter bet should appear within the pey. As the Germans were quite averse to most anything kabbalistic, would this apply to a sefer written by someone who follows German minhagim?

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    Mistakenly identified the sefer in my answer below as "from austria". As I said in my comments to that answer, experts have identified it as "Southeast German or Czech"
    – Yitzchak
    Feb 18, 2014 at 2:04

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This is the picture from my sefer, which experts have identified as either German or Czech. As you can see, there is a beis visible inside the Peh but it made neither in the style of the old European Bet Yosef ksav nor the Mishna Berurah's modification.Peh, על כפו Yekke sefer torah

  • How close is this to Rhineland Sta"M? Feb 21, 2014 at 18:56
  • Not having a Rhineland sefer to compare it to, I can't answer that definitively but I would imagine very close.
    – Yitzchak
    Feb 28, 2014 at 1:28
  • Good point, although I know that the cultures of Hamburg and Frankfurt were worlds apart, hence the speculativeness. Feb 28, 2014 at 4:17
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    Cultures were worlds apart in more recent years but STA"M tends to be very conservative by its nature
    – Yitzchak
    Feb 28, 2014 at 15:27
  • I meant more that Hamburg was ritualistically Polish, rather than Rheinisch. Feb 28, 2014 at 16:08

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