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Ok, this is a little lighthearted but so be it. I am curious why I can't find the answer to this online.

I was once told by someone involved with a nationwide kashrus organization that Pepperidge Farm Goldfish are specifically not given hasgacha as a gezeirah, so that children won't think real goldfish are kosher. (This presumably isn't an ingredient or production issue, as 95 of their other products are under supervision.)

I've always assumed this was common knowledge and I remember talking with friends about it, because you can certainly buy Beigel and Beigel goldfish in Israel. But I was talking to my wife and the principal of our day school about it and neither one of them had ever heard this explanation.

I assumed "everyone" knew this but apparently not. Does anyone have a "source" for this? (E.g., an article in Kashrus Magazine?) Has anyone else ever heard this before?


I'll edit this, given Fred's correction below. Apparently goldfish, being carp, are indeed kosher, although please keep them out of my gefilte fish. So, forgetting my narishkeit above, I'm left wondering why those of the Pepperidge Farm variety aren't kosher.

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    @Michael maybe they have not-kosher ingredients? Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 2:50
  • @Michael maybe they don't want to pay for a mashgiach to verify their kashrus?
    – Double AA
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:07
  • Well, 95 of their other products are kosher, and I believe these crackers are one of their best selling products. I assume they'd be popular if an OU was on the box. But I think I just answered my own question. Namely, I think they have cheddar cheese in them. (Yup, just googled.) I assumed they were just crackers. Wow, do I feel stupid! But perhaps I can be forgiven because we don't eat them? :) So, how do I mark my own question as answered?
    – Michael
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:13
  • It was actually my understanding that goldfish are kosher. Don't they have fins and scales?
    – DonielF
    Commented Jan 15, 2017 at 12:52

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Here is an article which seems to answer the question directly:

"While packaged goods companies say it is not expensive to reformulate, it can be tricky. Pepperidge Farm says it did not certify its cheese Goldfish crackers because a synthetic enzyme in kosher cheeses produces a flavor that is unacceptable to the company. "

Strangely enough, it seems that at some point, some were OU supervised (I am linking to a cached page because the regular page won't load).

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  • The cached Foodergy site also claims the Original snack crackers are OU certified.
    – Fred
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:29
  • I had erroneously assumed they were parve but made on dairy equipment. By the way, how are you guys finding these articles? I did try googling variants of this question before bothering other people and didn't find anything.
    – Michael
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:30
  • @Michael I found foodergy by Googling: "pepperidge farm" "goldfish" "dairy". I found the NYT article by Googling: "pepperidge farm" "goldfish" "kosher".
    – Fred
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:36
  • I did the same query without the quotes and didn't find anything useful. Thanks for the reply! Wish there was some way here to thank all who took the time to respond. Looking through some of the questions here, it seems like a very heimish website and a kiddush HaShem.
    – Michael
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:42
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Regarding the question of whether eating kosher crackers shaped like non-kosher animals might be in some way undesirable, see this question.

Goldfish, a type of carp, is listed as kosher by the CRC, so the reason that you heard for lack of certification does not seem tenable or legitimate. As you mentioned, there are fish shaped kosher crackers made by בייגל בייגל in Israel.

Regarding your last question, a New York Times article from 1989 claims:

Pepperidge Farm says it did not certify its cheese Goldfish crackers because a synthetic enzyme in kosher cheeses produces a flavor that is unacceptable to the company.

I don't know how the status of the cheese crackers might relate to the "Original Goldfish Baked Snack Crackers", but the ingredients list for that product indicates that it contains milk. I don't know if Pepperidge Farm has reason to avoid using kosher milk in these crackers, but I doubt it.

I instead suspect that the various Goldfish products are run on the same production lines, so that if Pepperidge Farm chooses to use non-kosher ingredients in any of those products, all of the Goldfish products could potentially be contaminated and would therefore not receive kosher certification.

It should be easy enough to verify the actual reason behind the lack of certification by contacting the Orthodox Union, which certifies other Pepperidge Farm products, or by contacting Pepperidge Farm by phone or via their website.

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  • Thanks Fred! I mentioned Beigel & Beigel goldfish in my question above. Among my few discoveries when I googled all of this that Walmart sells Beigel & Beigel parve crackers. Who knew? :)
    – Michael
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:33
  • @Michael Indeed, you did! I'll edit that now.
    – Fred
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:37
  • I'd be surprised if the OU told you that. They rarely say anything but "not recommended".
    – Double AA
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 3:51
  • @DoubleAA, do you mean me? The story I heard wasn't an official statement from any organization. I know someone who worked for another supervisory organization (not the OU) and he told me this over his Shabbos table. The truth is I never knew until today that goldfish are kosher. I must have missed shiur that day. (But has anyone actually ever eaten one? They must be awfully hard to fillet.)
    – Michael
    Commented Nov 1, 2013 at 4:43
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    The rabbi who has long supervized the Pepperidge Farms plant in Utah on behalf of the O-U is Rabbi Moshe Heisler who is based in Denver. Rabbi Heisler is a tremendous expert in the field and if he has doubts about the product, then I respect that and I would refer questions directly to him. For halachic ruling, however, consult your local rabbi (who might want to call Rabbi Heisler himself). Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 13:51

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