How do Chassidim and litvaks who hold Rabbeinu Tam's view of when nightfall is (later than most people's) blow shofar before that time after neilah?
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In our Yeshiva (Sefaradi) we hold Rabenu Tam also and blew Shofar in Neila. +1– Hacham GabrielOct 6, 2013 at 18:49
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I thought sefardim kept a shorter zman.– samOct 6, 2013 at 18:51
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3Do you know that Chassidim and litvaks get to neilah before Rabbeinu Tam's zman? I guess I always assumed that people who follow RT just end later.– Monica CellioOct 6, 2013 at 19:08
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Maran holds to keep until Rabenu Tam.– Hacham GabrielOct 6, 2013 at 20:29
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On Yom Kippur.........– samOct 6, 2013 at 20:51
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Mishna B'rura 623:12 says one may blow shofar after n'ila even during ben hash'mashos (i.e. before sure nightfall, as long as it's safek layla, possibly night), since, as he says there, "it's a rabbinical prohibition for the sake of a mitzva". Since you're asking about Rabenu Tam's view, you may prefer a more hasidic source: Shulchan Aruch Harav :11 permits it also ("since this sounding is not a labor at all and doesn't even have a complete prohibition… and was prohibited on Shabas and holidays only because of 'weekday activities'"). See also Taame Haminhagim 773 (which does not address your question exactly but is interesting).
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This would still require waiting 58 minutes after visible sunset.– Double AA ♦Oct 6, 2013 at 21:49
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In your estimation, the communities mentioned in the question blow shofar always at least 58 minutes after visible sunset?– Double AA ♦Oct 7, 2013 at 17:53
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I have little basis on which to estimate that, @DoubleAA. The last time I prayed in such a synagogue on Yom Kipur was decades ago.– msh210 ♦Oct 7, 2013 at 17:58
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I don't see how this answer is complete without such an assertion, at least of a miut hamatzui of those communities in quesiton.– Double AA ♦Oct 7, 2013 at 17:59
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@DoubleAA, I don't doubt that some hold Rabenu Tam's time only l'chumra (e.g. they start Shabas at standard sundown) and thus should (CYLOR) be allowed to blow shofar from standard sundown. Perhaps I should edit that into the answer.– msh210 ♦Oct 7, 2013 at 18:11