There is a tradition in Orthodox (not Conservative) to keep niddah like a zava- meaning 4-5 bleeding days and then 7 additional clean days. In the Torah, niddda is 7 days and then mikveh. This was the way it was until the expulsion of the Jewish people when it was felt that people would get confused with the counting for niddah. My question is if the woman went to mikveh after the 7 days, is it ok bedieved? Thanks.
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2I disagree with your assertion that it is (a) a tradition and not a halakha, (b) that only Orthodox and not Conservative or other Jews practice, and (c) the reasons behind the 5 clean days. Under all of that, though (and the inconsistent spelling), you have a good question. Can you try revising it a bit?– Charles KoppelmanCommented Sep 22, 2013 at 18:57
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@CharlesKoppelman בנות ישראל החמירו על עצמן שעל כל טיפת דם קטנה כחרדל יושבות הן ז' נקיים כמו זבה גדולה. That sounds like a tradition to me. But that's not really the subject of this post.– Robert S. BarnesCommented Sep 22, 2013 at 19:53
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1@CharlesKoppelman וסיבות רבות לחומרה זאת, והחשובה בהן היא כדי שתהיה לכל הנשים ספירה אחידה, ולא תצטרך כל אחת ואחת לחשב לעצמה חשבונות מסובכים שלא כולן בקיאות בהם.– Robert S. BarnesCommented Sep 22, 2013 at 19:59
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2@Robert Charles is right. You are ignoring the issue of Poletet shichvat zera. Plus something that started as a tradition may still later be formally enshrined as law– Double AA ♦Commented Sep 23, 2013 at 5:40
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1@DoubleAA does poletet shichvat zera apply to the biblical seven days? I thought the drasha was that her purity cannot be interrupted during the seven clean days. But there is no requirement of purity during the seven biblical days, she can be bleeding throughout as long as she stops before the mikva night.– Baby SealCommented Apr 7, 2017 at 16:03
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If the woman did a "hefsek taharah" (meaning she checked herself and was clean) before immersing the Mikva, then M'Doriasa (according to Biblical law), she is okay. But according to rabbinic law, she is still a niddah until she counts seven clean days and then immerses.
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1How does she know when the seven days are over? what if day "1" wasn't the right color red and was pure.– Double AA ♦Commented Sep 22, 2013 at 3:21
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1Because of that question, Chazal were gozer to keep seven clean days. But it seems to be only a chasash d'rabanan. Commented Sep 22, 2013 at 7:34
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1@Robert You can assume whatever you want for arguments sake, but practically no one knows how to distinguish the different colors of red anymore. It is just a lost tradition that you would need a prophet or something to restore.– Double AA ♦Commented Sep 22, 2013 at 19:18
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1@Robert That's probably because you've only read works that discuss modern applications of Hilchot Niddah. See Niddah 2:6 for example.– Double AA ♦Commented Sep 22, 2013 at 19:55
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1@DoubleAA also I seems like, as is the case nowadays, a woman essentially declares herself impure as is implied in the verses. She counts seven days, and then if the bleeding has stopped, she is good to go. Commented Apr 7, 2017 at 16:17