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During aseres yemei tshuva the Shulchan Aruch writes that one should not eat pas akum(palter).

Does one have to say bli neder to take this chumrah on,or since it is a halacha no bli neder is necessary and once aseres yemei tshuvah is over one can drop this chumrah?

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  • Yes (no source, but it's Pashut). Sep 8, 2013 at 19:04
  • Yes that one has to say bli neder?
    – sam
    Sep 8, 2013 at 19:23
  • Yes, one must say Beli Neder. Sep 8, 2013 at 19:42
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    Since it is brought in halacha ,so it is known one will stop after the 10 days
    – sam
    Sep 8, 2013 at 22:47
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    @Naftali, definitely not a duplicate, since this is about a specific practice's status, though answers to that question could potentially inform answers to this one.
    – Isaac Moses
    Sep 9, 2013 at 17:55

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The Beis Yosef in O.C. 603 quotes a Tashbet"z quoting R' Shmuel of Burnburk that one shouldn't accept not to eat pas palter during aseres yemei teshuva because if he did he'd have to continue keeping it all year. We don't pasken like that which is where the Aruch HaShulchan is coming from. That being the case I think it's clear from the poskim the way they deal with the issue that there is no need to say "bli neder", because that's the issue R' Shmuel had with this custom.

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Aruch Hashulchan (603) says:

…so he wrote that even someone who is not careful all year with bread of a non-Jew should be careful during the ten days of return, q.v.

It seems to me that that's true only of things that have no legal prohibition — like this, which is only a pretty thing to do (hidur), so it's appropriate to prettify thusly during these days. But things that some people have ruled are prohibited legally, but that people act on according to the lenient ones, such as chadash outside Israel, flesh without an adhesion, and the like — one cannot act thusly [=in accordance with those who rule stringently] during the ten days of return. After all, since [those who might do so] would be refraining from eating [such food] during these days, it'd be as if they accepted the prohibitors' view upon themselves, so how could they eat it afterward?

It seems that Aruch Hashulchan holds that the "it'd be as if they accepted the prohibitors' view upon themselves, so how could they eat it afterward?" argument does not apply to pas palter, bread of a non-Jew, and that he'd thus not require hataras n'darim, which would be specifically for something that, without such hatara, would remain prohibited.


If I might add my own thoughts — hataras n'darim requires that the person seeking the hatara have a pesach, some situation that has arisen that he did not anticipate when making his neder: had he anticipated it, he'd never have made the neder. If that were required here, then presumably "it's too hard to keep this rule all year" is insufficient a pesach year after year after year: at some point, he should anticipate it's not going to work. So he'd need some other pesach. Yet we find no mention in halacha of hataras n'darim or finding a pesach or specifying "b'li neder" about pas palter in the ten days of return. That alone seems strong evidence that it's not considered a neder affecting the time after Yom Kipur.

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