Every fast day on the Jewish calendar has its set of selichot that are said. The one exception to this is Tisha B'Av. This seems counter-intuitive to me because Tisha B'Av is the day when we mourn the destruction of the first and second Temples, which were destroyed because of our sins. It seems like Tisha B'Av should have selichot even more so than other fast days. So why do we not say them?

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    Very similar: judaism.stackexchange.com/q/9387 – msh210 Jul 18 '13 at 15:23
  • Hi Daniel. If you can, look through www.beureihatefilah.com. I think I saw an article there that says that originally Selichot WERE said on Tish'a B'Av. There may actually be some isolated communities that still say it. I don't have access to the site now (They block it as a "religious site", here.) I'll see if I canlocate it during the weekend. – DanF Jul 28 '17 at 21:31

If s'lichos and tachanunim are the same thing, as I believe they are, this question is synonymous with "why don't we say tachanun on Tish'a B'Av?" The answer to that, linked here from here is

No “Tachanun” and no “Avinu Malkeinu,” both typically said on Fast Days, but not on Tisha B’Av, because, although it is the saddest day, and the most severe of the fast days, it contains within it the potential for tremendous joy. It is also called a “Moed,” a special time, as are the joyous holidays Pesach, Shavuot, and Sukkot. This can be, and historically indeed was, a “special time” of punishment but ultimately, it will be a “special time” of Redemption and Rebuilding and Restoration – for the destroyed City of Jerusalem and Holy Temple and the diminished People of Israel, whose spiritual center they’d comprised.

  • My minyan said ta7anun n ovinu malkeinu. – MoriDowidhYa3aqov Jul 18 '13 at 15:07
  • @MoriDoweedhYa3gob That's atypical. Is that in the Rambam? – Daniel Jul 18 '13 at 15:33
  • @daniel not saying ta7anun is shulchon oruch n ramo says also not salichoth. That's on them. They must prove that we should not say so. No where before that is it saying that tisha3 ba'ov is something special therefore we don't say this n that. – MoriDowidhYa3aqov Jul 18 '13 at 16:27
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    @mori that is not true. See the RAMBAM who says that the days we skip tachanun are based on MINHAG. – Double AA Jul 19 '13 at 18:48
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    I rest my case. – Double AA Jul 21 '13 at 15:20


I found this answer. It basically says that since this day of mourning is so great, it is as if the "gates of prayer have been closed".


What everyone else is saying is mostly true, but there is another reason besides for tisha b'av's potential to be a yom tov, and that is because slichos is asking for forgiveness which every other fast day is about, but tisha b'av is only about mourning, not teshuvah. So to sum it all up slichos isn't connected to the happiness of the day, rather the purpose(i.e. Yom Kippur is considered a yom tov yet we still say slichos because the purpose of the day is forgiveness)

  • By the way if you feel that you don't like this answer plz tell me why – JediPythonClone Jul 26 '15 at 19:43
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    I strongly disagree with your claim that Tisha b'Av isn't about teshuva – Daniel Jul 26 '15 at 21:36
  • @Daniel well if it is about teshuvah why why not say slichot!?!?!? – JediPythonClone Jul 26 '15 at 22:15
  • that's my question! The other answers don't rely on Tisha b'Av not being about teshuva. – Daniel Jul 26 '15 at 22:18
  • @Daniel like my 9th grade rebbi taught me, the question is (or at least can be) the proof to the answer. We know that we dont say it so obviously there is a reason so your question prooves one of these answers particulary mine which is what I just commented above – JediPythonClone Jul 26 '15 at 22:18

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