While in a shower is one allowed to talk to someone else (not about Torah - "regular" talking)?

I understand that talking in a bathroom is normally not permitted. Is a shower the same or different?


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See SA OC Siman 84 where it is clear that talking itself is allowed in a bathhouse, the restrictions are only to greeting with the word Sholom and speaking Torah etc.

אם מותר לקרות במרחץ ובו סעיף אחד: מרחץ חדש שלא רחצו בו מות' לקרות בו ובישן בבית החיצון שכל העומדי' שם לבושים מותר ובאמצעי שקצת העומדים שם לבושים וקצת ערומים יש שם שאילת שלום אבל לא ק"ש ותפלה: הגה ומותר להרהר שם בדברי תורה [ר"ן פ"ק דשבת ופרק כל הצלמים] ובפנימי שכלם עומדים שם ערומים אפי' שאלת שלום אסור [ואסור לענות אמן בבית המרחץ] [ר"ן פ' כירה]:

  • What about nowadays when they are connected? Jul 8, 2013 at 4:29
  • I would assume that the talking in a bathroom prohibition is limited to when one who is doing his 'needs', and I take that from the fact we see people go into the bathroom to get things while talking to others, and more important proof is from SA OC (43:5) that some say that going into a Bais Hakisay Kovuah with Tefilin is allowed if he's not doing his needs. Also see Mishnah Berurah (3:4) and Sha'arei Teshuva there #2. Jul 8, 2013 at 5:08
  • I don't think you're right on that one. I've seen the Posekim discuss talking in the bathroom (not while using the bath) and they prohibit. They say it's less of a prohibiton than while using but nevertheless should be avoided. Jul 8, 2013 at 13:35
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    @Hacham Gabriel Can you please supply sources, there is some type of imbalance on this forum that when you answer a question you're required to bring sources, but in comments against an answer you can get away with 'Reshonim say' 'posskim write' without any backup proof. Jul 8, 2013 at 16:24
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    I don't have it and I can't find a link to it, the Aruch Hashulchan 3:3 writes ולא ידבר כשהוא נפנה. Also the Mechaber himself in 85:2 says it's allowed and the Achronim say it's Midas chassidus not to based on Sefer Chassidim 994. Jul 8, 2013 at 21:13

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