It says in OC Siman 339 Sif 4 that judgements are not made on Shabbos. As well the Rema writes there that we therefore don't put someone into jail on Shabbos. As well we don't hit them since this is considered to be part of making "judgements" on Shabbos. The M"B there in note 12 says that as well one could come to make a mark on the person which would be a problem on Shabbos.

What about in regards to dealing with a misbehaving child on Shabbos. May one "punish" the child by hitting them (putting aside any discussion of whether it's right or wrong to hit a child -- asking only in regards to Shabbos.) Obviously not hard enough to make some sort of mark (as stated above -- which anyway a person would want to avoid hitting a child so hard.) However in a case where it's a light "poch" if this would be muter on Shabbos (in light of what it says here in Shulchan Aruch.) Are there any achronim that perhaps spoke about this?

(I suppose that one could ask not only in regards to hitting but other "punishments" as well, but I decided to use hitting as the main example since it's discussed here as well in Shulchan Aruch and is ossur because it's in the category of making a judgement which is ossur on Shabbos.)

  • "Putting aside whether it's right or wrong" ... "obviously not so hard..." Why not just pick a different punishment that doesn't require caveats? If it's about hitting, how can you ignore these issues? Is it Mutar to do other possible Isurim on Shabbos, setting aside the possibility that they might be Asur anyway? – Seth J Jun 4 '13 at 0:11
  • @SethJ The gemorah often entertains the possibility if something is muter on Shabbos and then after the fact raises the point that if it's muter even during the week, then perhaps pushes it away. Here also, we could push this away and say it's a "light poch" like I pointed out. Or ended off that it could be talking about another punishment. Stick to the question and we'll hopefully learn something here. – Yehoshua Jun 4 '13 at 5:23
  • I'm trying to help hone the question. Is it about hitting, or is it about punishment? – Seth J Jun 6 '13 at 2:40
  • I would understand that rule to be about Beit Din. Since parents don't generally convene a beit din in order to decide if Shmueli needs a time-out, I don't see it as applicable here. – Ze'ev misses Monica Feb 21 '14 at 3:43

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