Let's suppose that someone in a community has been put in cheirem, for whatever reason. This would generally ban him from the community shul. Should this person show up in the community shul, however, what is the halacha in regards to forcing him to leave. Do we publicly embarrass this person, and make somewhat of a scene out of it, or is it better to simply completely ignore him (obviously with no aliyot, etc.)?

On the one hand, he isn't allowed where he is. On the other hand, embarrassing a person is likened to killing him or her.

  • He presumably knew what he was getting into by walking in. If he wants to embarrass himself that's his business.
    – Double AA
    May 19, 2013 at 2:42
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    Note that the Taz (YD 334:1) writes that we should withhold measures that would push a person away from Judaism.
    – Fred
    May 19, 2013 at 19:43

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Rama rules (YD 334:2) based on a responsum of Rivash (173) that one who is in cheirem is not banned from the community synagogue qua being in cheirem, though he does not count for the minyan. However, since one may not sit down within 4 amot of someone in cheirem (Shulchan Aruch ibid.), some communities do remove him (ֹגרשו) from the synagogue because of the hassles it causes to the community who want to sit down. From his language it seems that, in such a community, one would force him to leave against his will because of the trouble he causes the regular worshipers.


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