Why is it that Rosh Hashanah we make a Bracha Haetz on the Apple in Honey but no Hadamah is made on the vegetables IF THEY ARE both not directly part of the Seudah?
asked Sep 3, 2010 at 6:14
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How do you know that this is the case?– mevaqeshAug 23, 2017 at 1:52
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I can only speak of sephardi custom, but there the custom is to make HaEitz on the pomegranate, adamah on something like the beans, and hakol on either the meat items(heart, lung, head). This order can typically be found in any Sephardi Mahzor. The two I am most familiar with are Ish Matzliah and Shulhan Melekhim.
answered Sep 3, 2010 at 9:22
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Oh so Sefardim accentually make Brachos on all Items when you say sefardim does that mean all including syrians Egyptians and Morocans? Sep 3, 2010 at 12:46
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See the desserts question. Common Ashkenazic practice is that fresh fruit warrants its own bracha. But not vegetables.
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My understanding is that's understood as normal practice; fresh fruit is dessert, but salad and other vegetables are part of the meal. Then again, my Rosh Yeshiva has a different mesora -- he makes a ha'adama on the carrot on top of his gefilte fish!– ShalomSep 3, 2010 at 12:58
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1Quick explanation: fruit is more dessert-like than vegetables. You might have carrots, pickles or celery with your meal, but when was the last time you saw someone serve chopped apples?– yydlSep 3, 2010 at 12:58
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My impression, based on this, is that the definition of "fruit" vs "vegetable" here is a culinary one, not halachic. So strawberries for dessert get ha'adama; avocado in your salad doesn't get ha'etz.– ShalomSep 3, 2010 at 13:25
As brought in the footnote 35 here,
Chazon Ovadyah (p. 98) writes that one shouldn’t make a Bracha upon the cooked vegetables because they’re considered as part of the meal. Halichot Shlomo (1:18), however, writes that one should make a HaAdama upon the gourd and exempt the other vegetables. To avoid all doubt, Nitei Gavriel 29:18 writes that one should make a HaAdama on a banana.
It's interesting to note Rabbi Tzadok's insightful answer detailing an opposite sefardi minhag than the Chazon Ovadyah. Nonetheless, it seems the Halichot Shlomo would tell you to make a bracha on the vegetables which indeed aren't considered a part of the seudah.
