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I heard that Bava Basra is the longest masechta in blatt but Brochos is the longest mesechta in words. Did anyone else hear anything about that?

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What most likely got this rumor started is that Brachos does have and lots of pages with minimal commentary. Brachos does in fact (according to my calculations) take the record for most Talmudic text per page.

words/daf letters/daf words letters daf mesechta
1,115.14 4,337.46 70,254 273,260 63 ברכות
975.11 3,786.44 26,328 102,234 27 כריתות
971.69 3,771.92 12,632 49,035 13 הוריות
933.52 3,718.42 28,939 115,271 31 מגילה
931.76 3,625.12 104,357 406,013 112 סנהדרין
889.70 3,536.23 26,691 106,087 30 תענית
805.50 3,204.36 22,554 89,722 28 מועד קטן
815.60 3,179.48 39,149 152,615 48 סוטה
751.97 2,972.61 24,815 98,096 33 ערכין
765.57 2,947.04 17,608 67,782 23 מכות
729.62 2,866.87 113,820 447,232 156 שבת
731.56 2,859.64 59,256 231,631 81 קידושין
712.81 2,827.15 18,533 73,506 26 חגיגה
715.04 2,800.14 84,375 330,417 118 בבא מציעא
711.64 2,782.31 83,973 328,313 118 בבא קמא
691.35 2,762.51 51,851 207,188 75 עבודה זרה
698.94 2,760.97 23,065 91,112 33 תמורה
696.08 2,738.49 50,118 197,171 72 נידה
698.23 2,729.91 84,486 330,319 121 יבמות
687.53 2,724.15 23,376 92,621 34 ראש השנה
686.13 2,704.34 82,335 324,521 120 פסחים
683.51 2,684.79 60,832 238,946 89 גיטין
676.45 2,668.62 40,587 160,117 60 בכורות
681.60 2,660.13 32,717 127,686 48 שבועות
671.59 2,648.57 73,203 288,694 109 מנחות
661.24 2,602.73 73,398 288,903 111 כתובות
657.24 2,592.09 57,180 225,512 87 יומא
646.52 2,540.40 67,238 264,202 104 עירובין
638.92 2,507.10 24,918 97,777 39 ביצה
635.14 2,494.26 89,555 351,691 141 חולין
587.31 2,323.16 32,302 127,774 55 סוכה
582.73 2,299.84 69,345 273,681 119 זבחים
512.22 2,049.89 4,610 18,449 9 תמיד
508.82 1,978.57 89,044 346,249 175 בבא בתרא
430.52 1,670.32 27,984 108,571 65 נזיר
384.00 1,535.95 8,064 32,255 21 מעילה
383.06 1,499.28 34,475 134,935 90 נדרים
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  • Where did you find that?
    – SimchasTorah
    Aug 26 '10 at 23:14
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    Downloaded the texts from mechon mamre, and wrote a computer program to count everything.
    – Shalom
    Aug 27 '10 at 1:20
  • @Shalom Can you add Shekalim (as printed in the Bavli) to the list?
    – Double AA ♦
    Oct 20 '13 at 16:37
  • If you still have the code, could you post it somewhere (like a gist) for other people to see?
    – Scimonster
    Oct 18 '17 at 17:24
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    Cited in Footnote 4 in this Seforim Blog post
    – Isaac Moses ♦
    Feb 16 '20 at 6:14
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No, Shabbos is the longest.

See the comments here: Shelosha Veshishim - mi yodeya?

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    So at least I'm not the only one who heard the debunked Brachos rumor ... I wonder where it came from.
    – Shalom
    Aug 26 '10 at 21:52
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    @Shalom They say it in the name of the Vilna Gaon, but I have no idea why.
    – Yehoshua
    Mar 12 '16 at 17:16
  • @Shalom 1/2 While I’ve heard the rumor too for many years, with different names of masechtot and in the name of various people I’ve never seen a legitimate source from the VG. But supposing the rumor is true I wonder if a) the individual(s) who asserted so was simply wrong or b) the the computation of words yielded different totals; IOW, Rabbi X counted קמ״ל as three words (=קא משמע לן) whereas the computer counts it as one. Same goes for dozens of other acronyms.
    – Oliver
    Jan 27 at 13:36
  • @Yehoshua 2/2 Furthermore, supposing the VG did assert so, I wonder (but doubt) if his emendations and the textual variants between the edition(s) he used (Amsterdam 1644 & Frankfurt on the Oder 1715) and the Mamre text (IIRC they use the Vilna ed.) could make up for the discrepancy.
    – Oliver
    Jan 27 at 14:05

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