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What is the source that a woman's (singing) voice is considered ervah?

  • Why do you have "singing" in parenthesis? Are you looking for a source for her voice or her singing voice? – Double AA Aug 8 '14 at 15:34
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Gemara Berachos 24a : Shmuel says that kol of a women is ervah because of the passuk in shir hashirim 2:14.

יד. יוֹנָתִי בְּחַגְוֵי הַסֶּלַע בְּסֵתֶר הַמַּדְרֵגָה הַרְאִינִי אֶת מַרְאַיִךְ הַשְׁמִיעִנִי אֶת קוֹלֵךְ כִּי קוֹלֵךְ עָרֵב וּמַרְאֵיךְ נָאוֶה:‏

My dove, in the clefts of the rock, in the coverture of the steps, show me your appearance, let me hear your voice, for your voice is pleasant and your appearance is comely.'

  • I'm wondering how we know that this applies to singing and not speaking (re: ervah)? – SAH Dec 13 '15 at 9:28
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    The Divrei Yatziv goes through this inyun,he does bring shittos who seem to hold that an esheis ish speaking voice is assur,the Mieri for one – sam Dec 13 '15 at 16:29
  • @sah I think that is a fair question to ask separately – sam Dec 14 '15 at 0:36
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Yerushalmi Challah 12b : Shmuel says that kol of a women is ervah because of the passuk in yirmiyahu 3:9.

ט. וְהָיָה מִקֹּל זְנוּתָהּ וַתֶּחֱנַף אֶת הָאָרֶץ וַתִּנְאַף אֶת הָאֶבֶן וְאֶת הָעֵץ:‏

And it was through the voice [lit. lightness] of her harlotry, that she polluted the land, and she committed adultery with the stones and the wood.

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    nice find,I wonder why Shmuel gave to diff sources. – sam May 19 '13 at 21:12
  • @shmuelbrin All editions of the Talmud Yerushlami that I can find now online denote the opening of the Amoraic discussion of the Mishna with 'גמ. – Double AA May 19 '13 at 23:54
  • @DoubleAA they do, but I think that this is clearer. – Shmuel Brin May 20 '13 at 0:04

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