Whatever the reason, there is no Gemara on most of Zeraim and Toharos. Why, though, were the mishnayos themselves not included in their entireties in the redacted Talmud Bavli?

It seems strange that one could learn the entire Talmud Bavli without having thus learned the entire Mishna.

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    Just because they're not included in daf yomi doesn't mean they aren't part of Shas
    – b a
    Commented Aug 19, 2012 at 21:07
  • @ba, it's not just a daf-yomi thing. My Soncino edition of "the talmud" (bavli) doesn't include them either, though its mishna does. Commented Aug 19, 2012 at 21:37
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    It seems strange that one could learn through all of Bavli without going through all of Tanach, but they aren't printed together.
    – Double AA
    Commented Aug 20, 2012 at 0:22
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    that's a publisher's decision.... CYLJB - See your local Jewish bookstore :) Commented Aug 20, 2012 at 3:49
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    @Yoel, that's the answer. Because they are Mishnayoth, not Talmud.
    – Seth J
    Commented Aug 21, 2012 at 2:18

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They are included in Talmud Bavli (it is in the back of Berachos), if your edition doesn't have it it's probably because they wanted to save money on the printing (and figured you would buy a Mishnayos to learn those Masechtos).


The Mishna and Talmud do not break up the Mishna chapters the same way, and don't even break up Halachot the same way.

Mishna really needs to be studied seperately from the Talmud if one wants to study Mishna. If you want to study Talmud, you study the Talmud and there is no reason to include Mishnaot which have no Gemora.

  • There's still a broader "why" on your answer, though... any idea?
    – yoel
    Commented Aug 19, 2012 at 21:41
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    @yoel why not? What purpose does having mishanot which have no gemora be added to the book? Printing was not cheap back then.
    – avi
    Commented Aug 19, 2012 at 21:42
  • fair enough....
    – yoel
    Commented Aug 19, 2012 at 21:59

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